Re: Disagree strongly on the time line issue - TOM showed what a mistake splitting by 'clusters' was
Cynewulf Send a noteboard - 27/11/2010 05:59:47 PM
((As a side note, a lot of people have mentioned the bridging between tGS and ToM. If you read the two books right after another like I did, it is an incredibly smooth and sensible transition and I encourage you to take this into consideration. I hardly felt like I switched books.))
How could you say this? You reach the end then jump back in chapter 2 to go over the same timeline.
Once the latest Cooper timeline comes out I'm going to read the chapters in a chronological order (or as close to as can be gotten). I expect it highlight even more how stuffing Perrin and Mat's setbacks and Avi's visions after Veins of Gold takes away from the sense of despair (A Memory of Light) RJ was trying to show before Rand's epiphany.
Although it would have risked TGS being accused of being another 'build up' book, even more after TOM splitting the books chronologically so TGS finished with Rand killing Semirhage and shown as Dark Rand, Egwene imprisoned after attending Elaida, Avi's vision shown, Perrin agreeing to a trial (and unable to Travel) and Mat having to wait in Caemlyn and ending on the Gholam having killed someone in his tent would have made much more sense IMO.
'Team Light' would have looked fraked. A Rand victory almost as bad as defeat, the other two ta'veren tied down, Egwene no longer able to influence the Tower Aes Sedai, with the Seanchan plan to attack revealed (but not yet launched) and Avi's vision to ram it all home.
TOM would have the showed 'Team Light' (except the Seanchan) getting their act together, with all plot lines pulling out of despair / setbacks at once (except how the Seanchan will eventually be dealt with).
I agree 100% with this. There are massive problems to the timeline as it is now. Sanderson has left little to no "anchor" events which allow us to puzzle out when things are happening in relation to each other. I suspect this is because he doesn't know himself. Sanderson has claimed RJ's chronology is "extremely complex". Apparently it is too complex for him to get right, while fans like Steven Cooper have been able to make a timeline of the books prior to KoD with a little effort. After that, of course, the timeline went out the window.
/tGS: These are damned good books.
27/11/2010 02:22:05 AM
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meh. ToM sucked for me. after tGS, I had become a bit hopeful, but now I see ...
27/11/2010 03:39:49 AM
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Disagree strongly on the time line issue - TOM showed what a mistake splitting by 'clusters' was IMO
27/11/2010 07:24:55 AM
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Re: Disagree strongly on the time line issue - TOM showed what a mistake splitting by 'clusters' was
27/11/2010 05:59:47 PM
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Splitting it this way was the only realistic choice
29/11/2010 01:58:52 PM
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Disagree - plus COT lacked almost anything full stop
30/11/2010 12:03:24 AM
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It will be better than CoT, sure, but still not good enough to appease most fans
30/11/2010 06:20:38 PM
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BS style
27/11/2010 07:25:38 AM
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That's the thing! If it was in its normal, Jordan paced writing, ...
27/11/2010 08:52:05 AM
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27/11/2010 11:57:22 PM
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Sin?! What, Jordan is a god now? Some flawless divine figure of fantasy writing? Puh-leaze!
28/11/2010 04:29:54 AM
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And you know how RJ would've outlined the books from where?
28/11/2010 05:07:31 AM
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Re: And you know how RJ would've outlined the books from where?
29/11/2010 08:16:12 AM
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My only problems are Mats sudden drop in literacy and the timeline. *NM*
27/11/2010 11:51:25 AM
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Not so much
27/11/2010 09:52:23 PM
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Have some question
28/11/2010 05:38:42 AM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 05:54:10 PM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 06:19:30 PM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 06:50:40 PM
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Exactly my feeling on TGS, but I do think ToM inferior to it (though still good).
28/11/2010 02:55:53 PM
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Re: Exactly my feeling on TGS, but I do think ToM inferior to it (though still good).
28/11/2010 03:04:57 PM
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Right, it's good, but could be better (or it could be better, but is still good).
28/11/2010 03:12:15 PM
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Re: Exactly my feeling on TGS, but I do think ToM inferior to it (though still good).
29/11/2010 12:55:40 AM
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Radically different perspectives, it seems; I bet you don't even like leggy blondes.
29/11/2010 01:11:16 PM
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"Reading" TGS &ToM in audio format and just weeks apart made them work better together. *NM*
29/11/2010 07:48:51 PM
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I agree. Also, chopping up the timelines was the best decision given the circumstances.
01/12/2010 02:02:07 PM
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Re: I agree. Also, chopping up the timelines was the best decision given the circumstances.
01/12/2010 02:31:46 PM
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Re: I agree. Also, chopping up the timelines was the best decision given the circumstances.
01/12/2010 08:17:57 PM
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