Graendal survived to provide us with a small surprise in this book. She revealed herself as Asmodean's killer. She interacted with Moridin and revealed things about the other Forsaken. She's also alive and well for the Last Battle. That's plenty...
All of which could have been done without her frankly pathetic escape. Except for her last minute conversion to the light that is no doubt on the way.
I don't understand why people are upset about Graendal. She had a lot of scenes in ToM that were entertaining. What was so cool about Semirhage or Rahvin that made their storylines superior? If it's all about fighting, we've seen Graendal fight in three scenes, including this book where she killed Aran'gar.
I'm not upset about Graendal. I'm upset that all "fight Scenes" have been reduced to one person having some sort of trick that was never thought of before to escape a problem.
A good example of this is Mesannas escape from the oath rod. The three methods put forward are outright stupid tricks.
I would put forward that it is not disimilar to the Harry Potter series in which the mechanics of what is and is not possible through channeling can now be bent to suit the needs of the story.
Fair enough. I struggle with some of these 'theories' too, especially Graendal's non-specific reason for making other channelers compel Ramshalan and also assuming that Rand would destroy her with balefire. But the original post asked what her 'point' was.
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What was the purpose of Graendal?!
25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM
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BS wanted to put her behind a "complicated" plot
25/11/2010 04:11:01 PM
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Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm
25/11/2010 04:19:02 PM
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read DomA's review. BullShit ruined the series. *NM*
25/11/2010 04:31:56 PM
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Links or it didn't happen.
25/11/2010 04:53:24 PM
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oh but, bookwyrm, now they have such a nice easy scapegoat!! *NM*
26/11/2010 01:35:53 AM
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And DomA is such infallible authority on the all things WoT why? *NM*
25/11/2010 06:00:42 PM
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I'd say that DomA is one of the most thoughtful posters here. He researches his comments and gives
25/11/2010 06:47:58 PM
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That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 01:33:08 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 03:47:38 PM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 09:40:54 PM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 12:22:02 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 06:08:15 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 04:54:00 PM
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Okay, what would you have had him do?
27/11/2010 01:54:19 AM
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Interesting question.
27/11/2010 02:58:55 AM
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Re: Okay, what would you have had him do?
27/11/2010 06:02:22 PM
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clearly the timeline is wonky, but it's easy enough to keep track of
04/12/2010 05:32:34 PM
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A minor aside
26/11/2010 02:49:03 PM
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oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM*
26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM
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because he's right on this account. This book was a trainwreck *NM*
26/11/2010 05:11:01 AM
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It's pacing and editing was bad, I see and agree on that. But the story overall was great.
27/11/2010 09:21:02 AM
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Re: Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm
25/11/2010 04:45:12 PM
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RJ was set on it being one book hoping he could finish it before he died *NM*
25/11/2010 05:45:07 PM
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Do you honestly think Jordan would have kept that "promise" if he were still alive? Seriously ...
27/11/2010 09:01:49 AM
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that's a pretty poor argument for showing BS as messing everything up
26/11/2010 01:29:16 AM
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Re: that's a pretty poor argument for showing BS as messing everything up
26/11/2010 10:45:51 AM
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Well
26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM
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I have no doubt at all that RJ laid out the idea of Graendal being discovered and escaping
04/12/2010 07:07:14 PM
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Lots
25/11/2010 04:38:52 PM
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Re: Lots
25/11/2010 04:53:38 PM
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What is the point of anything then?
25/11/2010 05:01:15 PM
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Re: What is the point of anything then?
25/11/2010 05:07:30 PM
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Re: What is the point of anything then?
25/11/2010 05:11:15 PM
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I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 05:58:19 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 06:22:31 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 06:34:57 PM
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Yes, she was useless to this storyline.
25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM
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If it hadn't been Graendal, it WOULD have been rather contrived...
26/11/2010 01:35:12 AM
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Well, we were under the impression that Moridin alone had access to the True Power.
26/11/2010 02:36:31 AM
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I was under the impression other Forsaken had access as well, something pointed out by their POVs ..
27/11/2010 09:09:17 AM
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