Why 'save' her deus ex machina style, just so she could...do nothing in the next book?
Her role was utterly pointless in ToM. Basically instead of Moridin telling Slayer what to do, he gave Slayer to Graendal so she could tell him that to do. Seems like she wasn't really needed at all. At least we should have seen her in some confrontation against Rand, Perrin etc.
So what, she's saved for the last book to be mindtrapped by Moridin? How pathetic. She'd be better off dead then since her own unique character traits that make her so interesting to us are worthless as a mindless slave to Moridin.
Yes, maybe some people wanted to see more of Graendal, but if she was going to survive the unsurvivable (balefire) at least she should have reallY RIPPED Rand and Co a new asshole in ToM.
She herself was USELESS. She never got herself personally involved AND it wasnt even her own involvement which got Slayer involved. At least we could have seen her having to have to hunt down Slayer to make him do the deed, but she was just handed Slayer, she did NOTHING. She confronted NOONE and I'm sorry, but I think we'd ALL like to see a Chosen tear that shit up for once!
I dont think we've seen any Chosen really fight hard for a VERY long time, decades. Wouldn't it have been A LOT more fun to watch Graendal's back against the wall and going ballistic against Rand, maybe compelling every channeler around him to attack him at once!
Anything EXCITING would be something fresh to watch from one of the 'terrible' Chosen.
Her role was utterly pointless in ToM. Basically instead of Moridin telling Slayer what to do, he gave Slayer to Graendal so she could tell him that to do. Seems like she wasn't really needed at all. At least we should have seen her in some confrontation against Rand, Perrin etc.
So what, she's saved for the last book to be mindtrapped by Moridin? How pathetic. She'd be better off dead then since her own unique character traits that make her so interesting to us are worthless as a mindless slave to Moridin.
Yes, maybe some people wanted to see more of Graendal, but if she was going to survive the unsurvivable (balefire) at least she should have reallY RIPPED Rand and Co a new asshole in ToM.
She herself was USELESS. She never got herself personally involved AND it wasnt even her own involvement which got Slayer involved. At least we could have seen her having to have to hunt down Slayer to make him do the deed, but she was just handed Slayer, she did NOTHING. She confronted NOONE and I'm sorry, but I think we'd ALL like to see a Chosen tear that shit up for once!
I dont think we've seen any Chosen really fight hard for a VERY long time, decades. Wouldn't it have been A LOT more fun to watch Graendal's back against the wall and going ballistic against Rand, maybe compelling every channeler around him to attack him at once!
Anything EXCITING would be something fresh to watch from one of the 'terrible' Chosen.
This message last edited by malekithe on 27/11/2010 at 06:50:44 AM
What was the purpose of Graendal?!
25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM
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BS wanted to put her behind a "complicated" plot
25/11/2010 04:11:01 PM
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Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm
25/11/2010 04:19:02 PM
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read DomA's review. BullShit ruined the series. *NM*
25/11/2010 04:31:56 PM
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Links or it didn't happen.
25/11/2010 04:53:24 PM
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oh but, bookwyrm, now they have such a nice easy scapegoat!! *NM*
26/11/2010 01:35:53 AM
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And DomA is such infallible authority on the all things WoT why? *NM*
25/11/2010 06:00:42 PM
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I'd say that DomA is one of the most thoughtful posters here. He researches his comments and gives
25/11/2010 06:47:58 PM
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That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 01:33:08 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 03:47:38 PM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 09:40:54 PM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 12:22:02 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 06:08:15 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 04:54:00 PM
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Okay, what would you have had him do?
27/11/2010 01:54:19 AM
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Interesting question.
27/11/2010 02:58:55 AM
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Re: Okay, what would you have had him do?
27/11/2010 06:02:22 PM
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clearly the timeline is wonky, but it's easy enough to keep track of
04/12/2010 05:32:34 PM
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A minor aside
26/11/2010 02:49:03 PM
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oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM*
26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM
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because he's right on this account. This book was a trainwreck *NM*
26/11/2010 05:11:01 AM
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It's pacing and editing was bad, I see and agree on that. But the story overall was great.
27/11/2010 09:21:02 AM
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Re: Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm
25/11/2010 04:45:12 PM
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RJ was set on it being one book hoping he could finish it before he died *NM*
25/11/2010 05:45:07 PM
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Do you honestly think Jordan would have kept that "promise" if he were still alive? Seriously ...
27/11/2010 09:01:49 AM
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that's a pretty poor argument for showing BS as messing everything up
26/11/2010 01:29:16 AM
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Re: that's a pretty poor argument for showing BS as messing everything up
26/11/2010 10:45:51 AM
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Well
26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM
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I have no doubt at all that RJ laid out the idea of Graendal being discovered and escaping
04/12/2010 07:07:14 PM
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Lots
25/11/2010 04:38:52 PM
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Re: Lots
25/11/2010 04:53:38 PM
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What is the point of anything then?
25/11/2010 05:01:15 PM
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I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 05:58:19 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 06:22:31 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 06:34:57 PM
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Yes, she was useless to this storyline.
25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM
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If it hadn't been Graendal, it WOULD have been rather contrived...
26/11/2010 01:35:12 AM
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Well, we were under the impression that Moridin alone had access to the True Power.
26/11/2010 02:36:31 AM
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I was under the impression other Forsaken had access as well, something pointed out by their POVs ..
27/11/2010 09:09:17 AM
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