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I' say wait and see.... DomA Send a noteboard - 21/11/2010 06:46:01 PM

In this point in time it looks more and more likely that Callandor is being considered the key to re-sealing the bore, which begs the question of why it was not being considered in the Age Of Legends.

The men of the time favored using seals which ultimately led to the taint and the breaking of the world. The women favored using the Choedan Kal, which if used against the DO would have meant the destruction of creation, but was ultimately needed for the cleansing of the taint. This seems to be a perfect example of the workings of the Pattern. Now with that being said why didn't the pattern just push LTT to use Callandor to re-seal the bore in the first place?


With the Viewing of the dark hand and Callandor, with the fact the Dragon as now tried the True Power, and is linked to the Shadow, with the fact Shai'tan has infused Shaidar Haran and in a limited way can now interact physically in the Pattern through this 'hand"... it seems very likely Callandor's role at SG is not something that it could have been used for in the AOL.

LTT wasn't short on strength. He seemed to have been missing saidar to reinforce the weaves, and the greater precision brought by working with circles. The quantity of saidin at his team's disposal doesn't appear to have been a problem at all.

Callandor had been discovered as flawed anyway. Unless used in a circle with two women, it offered no protection against drawing too much. To use it by himself, a man would need extreme self control, probably difficult to maintain when holding so much OP. Rand behaved very erratically each time he used Callandor.

In the WOS there was yet no taint, so the fact it magnified it too would most likely have gone unnoticed until the early Breaking. My guess is that the team who made the EOTW, and also had secured Callandor, might have been those who discovered it now magnified the feeling of wrongness on saidin.

That it magnified the Taint suggests Callandor would interact in an unexpected way with the True Power.

One idea might be to use Callandor to bait Shaidar Haran to use it to break Shai'tan's prison. My guess is that Shai'tan might try to enter Creation (ie: break his prison) by passing through Callandor. Perhaps he would have to release his grip on the Bore to do that, and the interaction of the three ta'veren being One might give enough to the Wheel to "heal reality", that is to reknit the Pattern without this hole in it. The way to destroy Callandor, where part of Shai'tan would be trapped, would be the SL taint, ie: Fain. He and the sword would annihilitate one another, as happened with Mashadar and the Taint in WH.

There are tons of possibilities, really, but it seems to me almost certain that if Callandor isn't a red herring and will be used at SG, it won't be to provide Rand with a powerful circle of three.

Right now, Rand's is still caught with the same crippling problem faced by both Latra Posae and Lews Therin. The only solutions they can conceive of to seal the Bore involve touching Shai'tan/the True Power directly with the One Power. That interaction is massively risky, dangerous and can have unpredictable results. LTT's perspective was that that it had to been attempted, for lack of any other idea. LPD's view was that it was better to build a doomsday device with the power to destroy the world, and with it ward a giant area to remove Shai'tan's touch on the world, while scientists wracked their brains out to find a permanent solution to remove the Blight. My guess is that if Shai'tan managed to reach out and touch those wards, the effects might have been differently but equally or even more disastrous as if LTT's plan went wrong.

In any case, it appears the Wheel couldn't let the Dragon seal the Bore as he planned to with both saidin and saidar, and it could not let Latra Posae's plan be implemented as well: both doomed the world.

The solution was to let LTT go forward, but to deprive him of the women, and to delay him long enough so the devices required to Cleanse saidin down the line could be be built. Once done, the possibility to use the two CK together was removed, and with Rand's epiphany the male one got destroyed, removing the possibility a single male channeler could destroy Creation, now that the Dragon had made his final choice that it was worth saving and he accepted his role as the Creator's tool and champion, perhaps even a fairly limited avatar of a kind, or a vessel, to oppose Shaidar Haran as Shai'tan's.
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Why was Callandor not considered? - 20/11/2010 10:29:26 PM 1201 Views
seems like a question of fate vs. free will - 20/11/2010 10:40:51 PM 756 Views
The pattern quite clearly does like throwing it's weight around - 20/11/2010 10:54:59 PM 672 Views
plot convenience, then. - 21/11/2010 12:54:51 AM 721 Views
I don't believe Callandor existed during the War of Power - 20/11/2010 11:36:44 PM 691 Views
Re: I don't believe Callandor existed during the War of Power - 20/11/2010 11:49:09 PM 765 Views
not necessarily - 21/11/2010 02:42:51 AM 728 Views
in fact it's likely why it is flawed - 21/11/2010 02:45:31 AM 748 Views
Callandor Creation - 21/11/2010 03:36:18 AM 1112 Views
there wasn't a single woman who would help him *NM* - 21/11/2010 12:49:23 AM 293 Views
This. *NM* - 21/11/2010 01:04:30 AM 267 Views
Re: there wasn't a single woman who would help him - 21/11/2010 02:12:13 AM 680 Views
Re: there wasn't a single woman who would help him - 21/11/2010 02:14:46 AM 681 Views
Re: there wasn't a single woman who would help him - 21/11/2010 02:27:33 AM 636 Views
I' say wait and see.... - 21/11/2010 06:46:01 PM 755 Views
this brings up some interesting points - 23/11/2010 12:46:28 AM 780 Views

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