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You make a valid point. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 14/11/2010 02:53:46 AM
They can't be killed, sure. But according to law and tradition they and their families owe a big ransom, which they can't afford since they got broke hiring mercenaries in the battle for the throne. So it's not stealing, it's more like foreclosure. Elayne took over their lands, but they don't have to pay the ransom and would get compensate them with lands in Cairhien. All in all, those families would be better off now than if they had to pay the big ransom and had kept their lands in Andor.


If it were only the monetary value of the land that was in issue, I would likely agree with you. However, the problem in this case is that the monarchy's power is only restrained by the other major Houses of Andor, and the power of those Houses is determined by their land. By taking this land from their owners and giving it to people of her choosing as bribes, she sets a precedent that allows the Crown to replace disagreeable nobles with others of its choosing.

Obviously Elayne can't do this freely yet. Her rule isn't secure enough, and she needs to be gradual about it. If she tried to do this with, say, Ellorien there'd be a civil war. However,the precedent is set so that in years to come, when her rule is stronger, she can move towards such methods.

As our protagonists, we generally sympathise with their frustrations when they attempt to get something done and are impeded by squabbling from, say, the Hall of the Tower. But it is important to keep in mind that checks to power exist because someone will eventually abuse their authority. Andor is a monarchy. The next ruler will likely have as her only qualifications being pulled out from between the Queen's legs, and not having a penis. Are those really enough qualifications to feel safe with the eradications of any counterweight to their power?
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So about the nobility. - 09/11/2010 06:53:34 AM 1253 Views
Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me. - 09/11/2010 08:27:26 AM 833 Views
Re: Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me. - 09/11/2010 06:56:35 PM 715 Views
that is how suicidial thoughts are usually formed in RL *NM* - 11/11/2010 06:03:21 PM 344 Views
I don't have any problems with this - they are trying to get more power to survive. - 09/11/2010 04:08:22 PM 870 Views
If that power is needed to survive, how will those she takes it from survive? - 09/11/2010 09:23:15 PM 810 Views
I disagree - 09/11/2010 07:28:39 PM 754 Views
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Yes, of course... - 10/11/2010 01:36:30 AM 786 Views
If you can stay on subject, yes. - 10/11/2010 03:22:49 AM 945 Views
Re: If you can stay on subject, yes. - 12/11/2010 10:56:44 AM 768 Views
Re: If you can stay on subject, yes. - 14/11/2010 03:13:07 AM 633 Views
*Scratches head* - 09/11/2010 10:59:29 PM 807 Views
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Damn... - 10/11/2010 01:27:28 AM 709 Views
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Ridiculous - 12/11/2010 07:20:13 AM 834 Views
Uh-huh. - 14/11/2010 03:51:49 AM 765 Views
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You make a valid point. - 14/11/2010 02:53:46 AM 1000 Views
Re: So about the nobility. - 10/11/2010 05:28:50 PM 739 Views

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