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Yes, of course... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 10/11/2010 01:36:30 AM

Superficial.

... murder is superficial, but attempting to get some stability before the Last Battle is a power grab by a megalomaniac... 8}


That wasn't the argument. Conquest by words or by swords is completely irrelevant as to whether Elayne is aggrandising her power.

That is utter and complete bull shit. Elayne sought Cairhein's throne because Rand had made her a legitimate contender who wouldn't have to fight a huge war to get the throne. She wouldn't have bothered, otherwise.

And as for the rest of those nations, Elayne, again, wasn't working with the aim of aggrandizing her power. Which is kind of why some of those (like the Two River and by extension Ghealdan) ended up in her kingdom.

And if you doubt that she is willing to use military force where words will fail, keep in mind that she was going to use the Band of the Red Hand to enforce her rule on Cairhien before she got a better idea.

You clearly suck at politics. She was going to use the Cairheinin portion of the Band as a police force against bandits. Not against the regular armies of Cairhein. The whole thing was to have been symbolic, a show of her concern for Cairhein and her ability to offer stability and protection. There was no intention of starting a war, no matter what was in the offing.

Remember that she was willing to go to war with Perrin on the eve of the Last Battle.

When? In which damn book did this happen?
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So about the nobility. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 06:53:34 AM 1274 Views
Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me. CatherineSedai - 09/11/2010 08:27:26 AM 857 Views
Re: Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me. benxtaron - 09/11/2010 06:56:35 PM 736 Views
that is how suicidial thoughts are usually formed in RL *NM* redhand - 11/11/2010 06:03:21 PM 356 Views
I don't have any problems with this - they are trying to get more power to survive. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/11/2010 04:08:22 PM 894 Views
If that power is needed to survive, how will those she takes it from survive? Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 09:23:15 PM 831 Views
I disagree Zeratul - 09/11/2010 07:28:39 PM 775 Views
Re: I disagree Macharius - 09/11/2010 08:26:12 PM 745 Views
Re: I disagree Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 09:29:11 PM 861 Views
Re: I disagree Zeratul - 10/11/2010 12:30:33 AM 789 Views
Re: I disagree Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 01:07:19 AM 800 Views
Yes, of course... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2010 01:36:30 AM 813 Views
If you can stay on subject, yes. Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 03:22:49 AM 967 Views
Re: If you can stay on subject, yes. Zeratul - 12/11/2010 10:56:44 AM 793 Views
Re: If you can stay on subject, yes. Fanatic-Templar - 14/11/2010 03:13:07 AM 657 Views
*Scratches head* fionwe1987 - 09/11/2010 10:59:29 PM 830 Views
Re: *Scratches head* Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 11:50:00 PM 903 Views
Damn... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2010 01:27:28 AM 731 Views
Re: Damn... Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 04:38:23 AM 728 Views
Ridiculous Rurouni_Kenshin - 12/11/2010 07:20:13 AM 853 Views
Uh-huh. Fanatic-Templar - 14/11/2010 03:51:49 AM 789 Views
Re: Damn... Zeratul - 12/11/2010 11:05:52 AM 749 Views
You make a valid point. Fanatic-Templar - 14/11/2010 02:53:46 AM 1022 Views
Re: So about the nobility. alex - 10/11/2010 05:28:50 PM 759 Views
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