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The engima that is Egwene chandra Send a noteboard - 06/11/2010 01:41:43 AM
Egwene has been very open in stating that she means to take the White Tower to new strengths. She isn't even remotely secretive about it, and I fail to see why she should be.

What are these new heights she wants to take the WT to? As a shelter, school and safety net for female channelers, or quasi-empire? Chasing quasi-empire dreams before TG is futile, Egwene should know that.
She worked out a deal with the Wise Ones and the Windfinders to tie them all together. That, in itself, both strengthens the Tower more than it has ever been, but also makes it impossible for the Shadow or the Seanchan to destroy one of these organizations easily.

If this is for the betterment of female channelers, then kudos to Egwene.
It is the same with Cairhein. In a time of war, it makes much more sense for the resources of Cairhein and Andor to be used in concert. Since Tar Valon is strategically located roughly in between these two nations, and will undoubtedly be a focal point for resistance against the Shadow or the Seanchan, it makes excellent sense to have a unified command to tie these three together.

Btw, tell me, I am sorry I forgot, but hasnt Rand stabilised Cairhein already? Yes, it makes sense for nations to be stable. But, why should they come under the dominion of the WT to become stable? It makes more sense for them to be under leadership of Rand. They can act in concert even then. Rand offered Cairhein to Elayne, but I am not sure he had in mind what u r suggesting, that Cairhein go under the WT's dominance. And, WT is not the only organisation thinking about post TG, Rand is too. It is for the best if the WT in its current structure lose some influence rather than gain more, or change its methodology, post TG.
In one stroke, one of Egwene's closest friends and allies becomes the most powerful person in the WT excepting Egwene herself. As a powerful Aes Sedai who rules two kingdoms, Elayne will be a powerful ally for Egwene if the Hall should try something stupid. Of course Egwene wants her to have Cairhein. Why wouldn't she?

So, Egwene wants Elayne to have Cairhein to strengthen her own position? I feel these Aes Sedai keep indulging in a "my dick is bigger than yours" game most of the time, like silly children.
Coming to the Hall, what sort of stupid things will the Hall try? Is Egwene so paranoid, and anticipating her own downfall, even with no DFs in the Hall? That seems so illogical.
I still keep wondering as to why Egwene became Amrylin and why she continues to be one and what she thinks about her future. Maybe I missed reading chapters specific to her, or did RJ never talk about this, unlike Rand's future.
Isn't everyone in WoT re-born?
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"She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..." - 05/11/2010 03:22:29 AM 2424 Views
Do you have a reference that we can look at? - 05/11/2010 03:24:39 AM 940 Views
Chapter 45 - A Reunion, Page 669 - 05/11/2010 03:59:25 AM 1123 Views
Ok, now I've checked it. - 05/11/2010 04:07:20 AM 992 Views
Re: "She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..." - 05/11/2010 03:49:16 AM 1138 Views
except... - 05/11/2010 03:49:45 AM 1002 Views
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We all know Egwene is going to save the day while getting everything she wants and more - 05/11/2010 04:14:55 AM 1077 Views
Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 04:25:43 AM 894 Views
Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 01:53:17 PM 898 Views
Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 02:00:37 PM 973 Views
Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 02:04:47 PM 894 Views
she's the youngest child - 07/11/2010 07:51:20 PM 801 Views
why? - 05/11/2010 03:10:39 PM 1002 Views
Re: why? - 05/11/2010 04:23:16 PM 962 Views
That didn't sound like madman's ramblings at all.... - 05/11/2010 05:00:59 PM 1029 Views
Re: That didn't sound like madman's ramblings at all.... - 05/11/2010 11:10:46 PM 900 Views
Hail Amrlyin Palpategwene - 06/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 970 Views
They're the ones who raised her this way! That's the last thing she needs. - 06/11/2010 03:38:17 PM 972 Views
Um, can we assume her parents raised her that way? - 08/11/2010 04:57:05 AM 822 Views
She's a short, female, youngest child of influential parents. Arrogance would come naturally to her. - 09/11/2010 02:08:29 AM 925 Views
Huh - 09/11/2010 07:56:15 AM 937 Views
Wow. What the fuck did your parents do to you? *NM* - 09/11/2010 03:35:07 PM 459 Views
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I try to avoid projecting myself onto fictional characters. Or real people. - 09/11/2010 06:45:14 PM 831 Views
too bad - 09/11/2010 08:20:04 PM 814 Views
Why don't you compare her to a summer's day while you're at it? *NM* - 09/11/2010 07:45:20 PM 390 Views
well... - 09/11/2010 08:18:08 PM 747 Views
I'm teasing you because you lay it on a little thick sometimes *NM* - 10/11/2010 01:10:39 AM 521 Views
You are seriously mis-perceiving a number of things. - 10/11/2010 01:30:47 AM 997 Views
So? - 05/11/2010 09:53:22 AM 867 Views
Re: So? - 05/11/2010 07:59:12 PM 901 Views
Re: So? - 06/11/2010 09:06:49 AM 791 Views
She didn't say that. You changed the wording and read it without context. - 05/11/2010 03:29:27 PM 1007 Views
So? - 05/11/2010 04:04:54 PM 849 Views
The engima that is Egwene - 06/11/2010 01:41:43 AM 867 Views
I wonder if... - 06/11/2010 05:17:45 AM 850 Views
You might have paid more attention than me when reading - 06/11/2010 06:50:46 AM 845 Views
The reason rand didn't tell Egwene about why he needs to break the seals is simple - 22/06/2011 10:49:25 PM 903 Views
That's the problem with Elayne that has emerged. - 06/11/2010 03:31:41 PM 1035 Views
Or, you know, she's being cleverer than you give her credit for... - 06/11/2010 04:45:10 PM 902 Views
This is the problem with rulers - what is smart for them equals increasing their power. Which is bad - 06/11/2010 08:40:19 PM 850 Views
So fragmentation is the reply? - 06/11/2010 09:59:47 PM 841 Views
Checks and balances IS diluting power. - 09/11/2010 02:16:18 AM 865 Views
The Andoran houses should ask one question of Elayne - and remove her if she answers wrongly - 08/11/2010 02:03:08 AM 915 Views
Hear, hear. - 09/11/2010 02:18:49 AM 896 Views
Maybe it's typo - 08/11/2010 06:38:26 PM 1077 Views
Yes, I'm pretty certain it is. - 09/11/2010 09:00:32 AM 805 Views
Agreed - 09/11/2010 07:05:09 PM 757 Views
i thought it was a typo too *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:11:10 AM 492 Views

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