Wow, a ruler who's trying to expand her influence and territories? Truly groundbreaking.
It is groundbreaking. Egwene is not just a ruler, she's a channeling ruler. You do see the difference.
Why should Egwene sit in the White Tower like a lame duck? Cairhien has been a place of squabbling nobles since the beginning of the series, and probably since the Aiel War. If the White Tower can gain the city, then why shouldn't they? It's obvious that Egwene wants to use diplomatic and subtle means to get the city (despite warmongering theories that have zero evidence to back them up).
Nationalities have the right to rule themselves, I think the Cairhienin would rather have their squabbling nobles than the supranational White Tower.
If the Tower rules Cairhien, the land/city becomes a playing field for the Hall. The Hall would try to control the country and we know how badly it can mess things up when they all try to further their own agendas.
Egwene simply has no right to control any part of Cairhien. It's the difference between legality and legitimacy. Like colonialist rule or the Vichy regime. The actions were perhaps legal but they weren't legitimate.
This isn't even a new idea, though obviously because Egwene is involved from some distance its caused hysteria. Almost as soon as Moiraine was raised to the shawl they were pimping her to take over Cairhien using her blood line, and they definitely did the same with Elayne, and openly said so. Siuan, Elaida and Morgase wanted Elayne to be the first open Aes Sedai on the throne of Andor, and obviously Elayne answers to the Amyrlin above all people. So Andor is pretty much the White Tower's. Considering Cairhien is a city waiting to be taken, how negligent would Egwene be not to look in its direction?
Andor is pretty much the White Tower's? That's not how Elayne sees it (there is a quote to back that up somewhere, something about her having to follow the Tower Law as an Aes Sedai but not as a queen. And we see that she differentiates between the two. Elayne Aes Sedai of the Green ajah and Queen Elayne) and if she did she sure as hell should be overthrown. She can't sell her county to the Tower, that's treason.
This message last edited by Lordling on 05/11/2010 at 09:16:12 PM
"She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..."
- 05/11/2010 03:22:29 AM
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Do you have a reference that we can look at?
- 05/11/2010 03:24:39 AM
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Re: "She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..."
- 05/11/2010 03:49:16 AM
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Re: "She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..."
- 05/11/2010 01:42:54 PM
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Not if it allows the Seanchan freedom to conquer Randland. I'd rather have Egwene over the slavers.
- 07/11/2010 07:32:20 PM
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We all know Egwene is going to save the day while getting everything she wants and more
- 05/11/2010 04:14:55 AM
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Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father
- 05/11/2010 04:25:43 AM
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Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father
- 05/11/2010 01:53:17 PM
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Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father
- 05/11/2010 02:00:37 PM
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why?
- 05/11/2010 03:10:39 PM
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Re: why?
- 05/11/2010 04:23:16 PM
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They're the ones who raised her this way! That's the last thing she needs.
- 06/11/2010 03:38:17 PM
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Um, can we assume her parents raised her that way?
- 08/11/2010 04:57:05 AM
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She's a short, female, youngest child of influential parents. Arrogance would come naturally to her.
- 09/11/2010 02:08:29 AM
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Huh
- 09/11/2010 07:56:15 AM
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Wow. What the fuck did your parents do to you? *NM*
- 09/11/2010 03:35:07 PM
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- 09/11/2010 06:14:30 PM
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- 09/11/2010 06:14:30 PM
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I try to avoid projecting myself onto fictional characters. Or real people.
- 09/11/2010 06:45:14 PM
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Why don't you compare her to a summer's day while you're at it? 
*NM*
- 09/11/2010 07:45:20 PM
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*NM*
- 09/11/2010 07:45:20 PM
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well...
- 09/11/2010 08:18:08 PM
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I'm teasing you because you lay it on a little thick sometimes *NM*
- 10/11/2010 01:10:39 AM
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*NM*
- 10/11/2010 01:10:39 AM
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So?
- 05/11/2010 09:53:22 AM
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i agree. and this is part of the reason why i don't understand why people have a hard time w/ egwene
- 05/11/2010 03:56:48 PM
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Because many of us don't see trying to achieve power for its own sake to be a good thing
- 05/11/2010 06:53:27 PM
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She didn't say that. You changed the wording and read it without context.
- 05/11/2010 03:29:27 PM
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So?
- 05/11/2010 04:04:54 PM
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The engima that is Egwene
- 06/11/2010 01:41:43 AM
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I wonder if...
- 06/11/2010 05:17:45 AM
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You might have paid more attention than me when reading
- 06/11/2010 06:50:46 AM
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The reason rand didn't tell Egwene about why he needs to break the seals is simple
- 22/06/2011 10:49:25 PM
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That's the problem with Elayne that has emerged.
- 06/11/2010 03:31:41 PM
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Or, you know, she's being cleverer than you give her credit for...
- 06/11/2010 04:45:10 PM
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This is the problem with rulers - what is smart for them equals increasing their power. Which is bad
- 06/11/2010 08:40:19 PM
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The Andoran houses should ask one question of Elayne - and remove her if she answers wrongly
- 08/11/2010 02:03:08 AM
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Maybe it's typo
- 08/11/2010 06:38:26 PM
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I was proven to be right - it's typo since it was corrected in the Ebook version
- 02/06/2011 11:59:02 PM
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