Again, taking darius his road of finding petty excuses. But again, you're doing an even worse job then he was. She mentally -raped- someone. All the Aes Sedai think so.
How would -you- feel being mentally raped and the excuse for keeping the purpetrator around near you, is because that poor rapist just lost his mama and his little doggy. Boo-hoo!
How would -you- feel being mentally raped and the excuse for keeping the purpetrator around near you, is because that poor rapist just lost his mama and his little doggy. Boo-hoo!
Oh what nonsense. Since when is bonding someone against their will a 'mental rape'? The other Aes Sedai consider it to be a crime, but like your other arguments you're taking it to the extreme. Your arguments are completely unbalanced, and when someone mentions it, you claim that they approve of the crime. According to you a guy is walking along and someone swears at him, and you name this an atrocity and say that 'his soul was ripped to pieces'... Get a grip.
These are silly excuses! What's next? We wait for Siuan to hang Novices, because she lost Aldric ans she's feeling really, really sad? Awww. Poor Siuan *pat on the head*.
???
And not -one- Aes Sedai did a goddamn thing about it. Not one. Elaida got away with both without so much a scratch!
Even worse, Stephanos was kept in the Tower!
I'm going to say this nicely; sorry, but you're really wrong here. The whole Tower knew Stephaneos was held captive for all the wrong reasons. You might want to re-read Egwene's encounter with Stephaneos and see how the Red Sister panics who tags along (as a prison guard) when Egwene tells Stephaneos the truth. The Tower knew. Instead of punishing Elaida for nothing short of an act of war, they -helped- her keep the sharade up, to protect the Tower's interests & "reputation" (what was left of it at that point)
Even worse, Stephanos was kept in the Tower!
I'm going to say this nicely; sorry, but you're really wrong here. The whole Tower knew Stephaneos was held captive for all the wrong reasons. You might want to re-read Egwene's encounter with Stephaneos and see how the Red Sister panics who tags along (as a prison guard) when Egwene tells Stephaneos the truth. The Tower knew. Instead of punishing Elaida for nothing short of an act of war, they -helped- her keep the sharade up, to protect the Tower's interests & "reputation" (what was left of it at that point)
Because Elaida is a tyrant and ruthlessly punished her adversaries in ways previously unknown to the Tower. Secondly, you're more upset that the King is. You act like he's one of Semirhage's victims. What is wrong with you, man?
Oh my lord. This isn't -about- a contest if the Whitecloaks are worse or better then Aes Sedai! This is about showing that -like the Whitecloaks- the Aes Sedai have their fair share of atrocities that remain unpunished, used in an appalling way or hidden away in a secret Depository.
It's not about exactly matching atrocities. It's about both organisations having members who commit certain atrocities and getting away with it!
Just. shed. those. pink. glasses.
It's not about exactly matching atrocities. It's about both organisations having members who commit certain atrocities and getting away with it!
Just. shed. those. pink. glasses.
Dude, the only one who is delusional here is you. You don't know what an atrocity is. To you it's any violation of the law, or any misdemeanour against a person. If someone steals your candy you'd probably consider it an atrocity. No one disputes the fact that the Tower does illegal and rubbish things, but you have no problem comparing kidnapping the unharmed King to mass murdering a whole village. No wonder the other posters are starting to becoming offensive.
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The Children of the Light and the White Tower
- 20/10/2010 08:32:10 PM
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- 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM
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Re: The Children of the Light and the White Tower
- 20/10/2010 08:58:12 PM
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The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 20/10/2010 09:05:55 PM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 12:15:48 AM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 02:59:49 PM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 04:35:00 PM
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And farmers are, of course, treated the same as rebel officers and usurpers and mutineers.
- 23/10/2010 03:07:10 PM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 07:55:06 PM
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And there is no indication of how far that went.
- 23/10/2010 03:12:42 PM
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"The question" as opposed to "questioning"
- 24/10/2010 06:21:43 PM
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And that would indicate everyone does it, if it is so commonly used, so how are the CoL worse? *NM*
- 25/10/2010 01:14:13 AM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 24/10/2010 06:53:19 AM
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The utter stupidity of this statement caught my eye...
- 24/10/2010 08:12:58 AM
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Your analyses and extension of concepts always brings that "utter stupidity" phrase to my mind.
- 25/10/2010 02:17:10 AM
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Huh? ... what !! ... are you mad?
- 21/10/2010 05:05:16 PM
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Did you forget the very first PoV Darkfriend in the series?
- 23/10/2010 03:27:25 PM
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Difference being the whitecloaks who were ordered to do it were not DFs. All the AS evil deeds
- 23/10/2010 07:55:23 PM
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So similar scenes in the Cairhienin civil war were all the work of Darkfriends?
- 25/10/2010 02:25:57 AM
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Please provide an example of a DF AS committing an atrocity and not being punished by the Tower
- 25/10/2010 03:34:46 AM
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Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:..
- 25/10/2010 09:28:10 AM
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Re: Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:..
- 25/10/2010 04:14:05 PM
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Not to mention it's not like any of these have been without repercussion!
- 25/10/2010 04:50:39 PM
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Re: Not to mention it's not like any of these have been without repercussion!
- 27/10/2010 01:06:53 PM
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You under some delusion that I'm defending the AS
- 27/10/2010 08:29:14 PM
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No. I'm pointing out you are under the delusion that AS pay for their atrocities.
- 28/10/2010 09:16:38 AM
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okay, so AS never Still and execute AS for doing stuff ... have you read the series?
- 28/10/2010 05:20:28 PM
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That doesn't make the -unpunished- atrocities disappear, you know. Your point is lame AND moot.
- 28/10/2010 07:07:27 PM
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Re: That doesn't make the -unpunished- atrocities disappear, you know. Your point is lame AND moot.
- 28/10/2010 07:09:33 PM
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To echo Darius...
- 23/10/2010 08:34:00 PM
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Re: To echo Darius...
- 25/10/2010 10:03:14 AM
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Go look up the definition of the word atrocity
- 25/10/2010 04:53:55 PM
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Their implicit role in the genocide of Manetheren was probable their greatest atrocity *NM*
- 26/10/2010 03:01:01 AM
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You mean the act that got Tetsuan deposed, Stilled and sentenced to hard labor until she gave up the
- 26/10/2010 04:19:45 AM
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Ya, the ultimated punishment of cleaning pots and floors 
NOOOOOOOO!!!
- 26/10/2010 11:59:51 PM
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NOOOOOOOO!!!
- 26/10/2010 11:59:51 PM
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Maybe you should have done that yourself: "behaviour or an action that is wicked or ruthless"
- 27/10/2010 11:11:30 AM
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the fact that you can't differentiate between the extermination of an entire village
- 27/10/2010 08:30:12 PM
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READ; I *did* differentiate between them. It doesn't change the fact all are atrocious deeds
- 28/10/2010 09:00:56 AM
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- 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM
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- 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM
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You asked for atrocities and you got them. Now you just don't know what to do with them.
- 28/10/2010 06:49:16 PM
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- 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM
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dude, you gave us a list of petty crimes and compared it to mass murder
- 28/10/2010 06:59:33 PM
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Complete the thought...
- 28/10/2010 07:11:37 PM
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seems I must do so for this guy to understand ... and I'm not holding my breath on that!
- 28/10/2010 08:24:57 PM
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Rape, murder, starting wars and doing noting about them, kidnap / severe torture of prisoners... *NM*
- 28/10/2010 07:51:33 PM
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again you fail to note that the AS have systems in place to prevent these things
- 28/10/2010 08:23:32 PM
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Again you fail to note that the AS haven't used those "systems" of theirs
- 28/10/2010 09:02:15 PM
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What wars did they start?
- 28/10/2010 08:56:46 PM
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You should be an Aes Sedai; the way you can twist truth would scare Siuan.
- 28/10/2010 09:07:24 PM
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- 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM
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Take your own advice, please
- 28/10/2010 07:30:51 PM
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Re: Take your own advice, please
- 28/10/2010 07:44:59 PM
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Come on. Just say it. Real men don't act like catty, bitchy women. *NM*
- 20/10/2010 11:14:49 PM
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"Rightly hold responsible for the threat of the Shadow?" Puh-leeze
- 21/10/2010 12:06:34 AM
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Puh-leeze right back at you:
- 21/10/2010 08:24:12 AM
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The Wheel was created so the DO could break in. The Creator plays his game with the DO thru people
- 21/10/2010 01:45:07 PM
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It was you who brought up that silly Real World kitchen example, silly.
- 25/10/2010 10:55:29 AM
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I could say you zinged me, but you're just bent on silliness. Bored now. *NM*
- 25/10/2010 10:54:41 PM
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Your personal theories do not constitute evidence, and your aberrant logic better supports MY case
- 21/10/2010 03:21:44 PM
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Objection, your honor! Bringing evidentiary rules into this is asinine! *NM*
- 21/10/2010 11:22:19 PM
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The word "evidence" is not exclusive to the practice of jurisprudence
- 23/10/2010 03:31:57 PM
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Rational thinking. Well, you use the word "deserved" in all caps. Nuff said. *NM*
- 23/10/2010 04:55:02 PM
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Emphasis means nothing one way or another as far as rationality goes, which you would know...
- 25/10/2010 01:13:23 AM
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You know zilch about my acquaintances. "mk" was wrong - you're not an idiot. But you are ignorable. *NM*
- 25/10/2010 10:57:04 PM
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- 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM
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Not so sure about that
- 21/10/2010 02:29:02 AM
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the city is closed to WC
- 21/10/2010 04:01:45 AM
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Re: the city is closed to WC
- 21/10/2010 04:55:45 AM
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But that is irrelevant. Aes Sedai can also go to Amadicia in disguise. *NM*
- 21/10/2010 05:35:18 AM
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But they aren't in disguise
- 21/10/2010 08:31:38 AM
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They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise.
- 21/10/2010 09:08:25 PM
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Re: They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise.
- 22/10/2010 02:10:07 PM
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CotL are welcome in Tar Valon to have a drink. Aes Sedai are hanged when found in Amadicia..
- 21/10/2010 08:33:03 AM
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Now hang on a minute!
- 21/10/2010 07:28:45 AM
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Re: Now hang on a minute!
- 21/10/2010 10:49:34 AM
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it would be an interesting comparison if they weren't completely different organizations
- 21/10/2010 04:09:31 PM
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