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Graendal could fight Lanfear and win Sidious Send a noteboard - 13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM
Of course the answer is no. There is a huge gap in power between them. Graendal would never confront lanfear face to face. But sammael and even rahvin would. Clearly there is a bigger margin between the top 6 than suggested in this post.


There is no huge gap between them - there are two defined levels. We have no idea how large this gap is, but it is almost certainly not large, because Graendal is close to maximum strength from her own account.

I don't know how you can say that Graendal would never fight Lanfear. Rahvin clearly thought that she was on the verge of attacking Lanfear in FoH, and he prepared to Travel. She also attacked Cyndane later in the series. Graendal has also said that she should kill Sammael, but decides against it because she's not holding saidar. We heard several instances where the six have threatened to kill one another - Ishamael remains almost the only exception, and may be a true level higher than the others.

Graendal can and will fight Rand - I'm quite sure of it. Semirhage was not against it, and I think Graendal is similar.
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