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She has no reason to be pissed about being asked to follow Rand - but that won't stop her of course. ajfurst Send a noteboard - 03/10/2010 12:57:48 PM

Even after seeing that their rule is benign to the common folk I can't see him allowing them to continue as they are with TG right on top of them. Either Tuon is going to have another encounter with him and see the change and be "bound to him" or he's going to crush them and literally bind them in some way (perhaps Fortuona has an appointment with an Oath Rod) ... the Prophecy says he will "bind the 9 moons to him" ... although she's not technically DoNM anymore so it seems more likely that he will in some way bind the Seanchan Nation.

Most likely by kneeling to her. Recall the prophecy?

If anything I think he's going to ask Egwene to join the Tower under him which she will not be happy about since it will create a number of nightmares in the form of Romanda and Lelaine. He may also insist that Taim/Logain must be considered her equal with both male and female Channelers being ultimately lead by him.

Here's hoping. But why would she be MAD about this, if she's the good guy and loyal friend to Rand and true ally of the Dragon Reborn that you and the original poster have been claiming?

Because she doesn't like the idea of being 2nd place anymore than Elayne liked the idea of Rand "giving" the Throne of Andor to her. I don't see much of a difference ... Egwene is at this point the rightful ruler of the AS ... Rand coming along and telling her she has to bend knee to him is insulting. More so because they grew up together. The difference is that we all know (even you) that in the end Egwene WILL fall into line and make the AS do the same.

In all honesty that may not even be what pisses her off ... She may just be get on his case because she believes he Compelled AS to follow him... All we know is that Egwene WILL show Rand her anger. Mat and Perrin and Nynaeve and Elayne and Aviendha have all done the same so I fail to see why Egwene is a massive bitch for doing the same.

It's not insulting to ask/demand the Aes Sedai fall in line. If it was equivalent to Elayne, that'd be Rand turning up whilst there where still 2 Amyrlin's and telling all the Aes Sedai Egwene is the true one because he (Rand) states it to be so. Rand has never tried to interfere in the AS split, despite every AS he encounters trying to interfere with him.

The AS aren't unique in any shape or form - they don't have the most channelers, those they have are constrained by the Oaths. With their army they are still less men by a lot then Rand already has, or the Seanchan have or the Borderlanders. As for politics - no land who isn't already with Rand will follow him because Egwene says to. Heck publicly being at odds with Rand could only help him get his alliance with the Seanchan.

The AS being allowed to run around outside the command structure of Rand at the top when he's trying to fight the last battle is a good recipe for disaster. Egwene's law of war and all.

What I'd like to see as the scene is Rand quoting the Law of War against the DO and then demanding the AS fall in behind him. Then we see Egwene go double standard on him about how the AS can't follow a mere man, blah, blah, blah. And Rand give her the choice of follow him or stay away from him, his lands, his channelers and the last battle as unless they are with him, they'd be more of a hinderance then a help. And she FINALLY has the revelation that Rand not her is the one who will save the world.

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I think I know what they're going to talk about... fionwe1987 - 01/10/2010 05:52:33 PM 1456 Views

I think her realizes now who Egwene really is LoialT - 01/10/2010 10:02:16 PM 740 Views

Pretty much - Egwene always wants to pin the blame on someone else; she won't appreciate correction Cannoli - 02/10/2010 08:30:02 PM 644 Views

Do you really think he'll tell her to back off the Seanchan? darius_sedai - 02/10/2010 09:33:06 PM 546 Views

We can hope. Cannoli - 02/10/2010 09:48:26 PM 590 Views

She'd be pissed just like everyone else in the series. darius_sedai - 03/10/2010 12:52:58 AM 576 Views

She has no reason to be pissed about being asked to follow Rand - but that won't stop her of course. ajfurst - 03/10/2010 12:57:48 PM 550 Views

So you would be fine if the leader of your country simply decided one day to follow someone else in darius_sedai - 03/10/2010 04:00:27 PM 533 Views

I'll bet Eggy gets ta'veren'd *NM* mogi67 - 05/10/2010 06:19:40 AM 227 Views

that would ruin her character just as much as it would have ruined Tuon's *NM* Deadsy - 05/10/2010 06:34:09 AM 227 Views

agreed darius_sedai - 05/10/2010 04:29:03 PM 443 Views

Maybe because they leash female channelers and practice chattel slavery? Rurouni_Kenshin - 05/10/2010 03:29:31 PM 598 Views

Yeah, a 50 year threat of nuclear war is so much better than an army that couldn't cross the Channel Cannoli - 06/10/2010 03:52:49 AM 631 Views

almost certainly Jim - 05/10/2010 04:26:43 AM 483 Views

Yes, but Tuon is now the aggressor darius_sedai - 05/10/2010 04:35:17 PM 510 Views

Calling her the agressor does not increase the threat. The situation is unchanged Cannoli - 07/10/2010 06:35:15 PM 534 Views

you know all those prophecies that say he will "bind the 9 moons to him"? darius_sedai - 07/10/2010 07:04:50 PM 485 Views

I ask again, what evidence is there of their corruption? Cannoli - 08/10/2010 01:56:49 AM 588 Views

We'll all find out soon enough about the truth of the prophecies. I admit that any of these options darius_sedai - 08/10/2010 02:47:10 AM 443 Views

that's why she won't like hearing it Jim - 07/10/2010 07:19:29 PM 476 Views

I'm not convinced he will at this point is what I'm saying darius_sedai - 07/10/2010 07:59:03 PM 581 Views

the Rand in chapter one seems likely to preach love not war Jim - 08/10/2010 05:32:21 AM 537 Views

They are on the offensive is the point. Even if Rand says not to attack them to Egwene darius_sedai - 08/10/2010 01:45:49 PM 483 Views

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Even after seeing that their rule is benign to the common folk I can't see him allowing them to continue as they are with TG right on top of them.  Either Tuon is going to have another encounter with him and see the change and be "bound to him" or he's going to crush them and literally bind them in some way (perhaps Fortuona has an appointment with an Oath Rod) ... the Prophecy says he will "bind the 9 moons to him" ... although she's not technically DoNM anymore so it seems more likely that he will in some way bind the Seanchan Nation.</quote>Most likely by kneeling to her.  Recall the prophecy?

<quote>If anything I think he's going to ask Egwene to join the Tower under him which she will not be happy about since it will create a number of nightmares in the form of Romanda and Lelaine.  He may also insist that Taim/Logain must be considered her equal with both male and female Channelers being ultimately lead by him.</quote> Here's hoping.  But why would she be MAD about this, if she's the good guy and loyal friend to Rand and true ally of the Dragon Reborn that you and the original poster have been claiming?  </quote>

In all honesty that may not even be what pisses her off ... She may just be get on his case because she believes he Compelled AS to follow him... All we know is that Egwene WILL show Rand her anger.  Mat and Perrin and Nynaeve and Elayne and Aviendha have all done the same so I fail to see why Egwene is a massive bitch for doing the same. </quote>
It's not insulting to ask/demand the Aes Sedai fall in line. If it was equivalent to Elayne, that'd be Rand turning up whilst there where still 2 Amyrlin's and telling all the Aes Sedai Egwene is the true one because he (Rand) states it to be so. Rand has never tried to interfere in the AS split, despite every AS he encounters trying to interfere with him.

The AS aren't unique in any shape or form - they don't have the most channelers, those they have are constrained by the Oaths. With their army they are still less men by a lot then Rand already has, or the Seanchan have or the Borderlanders. As for politics - no land who isn't already with Rand will follow him because Egwene says to. Heck publicly being at odds with Rand could only help him get his alliance with the Seanchan.

The AS being allowed to run around outside the command structure of Rand at the top when he's trying to fight the last battle is a good recipe for disaster. Egwene's law of war and all.

What I'd like to see as the scene is Rand quoting the Law of War against the DO and then demanding the AS fall in behind him. Then we see Egwene go double standard on him about how the AS can't follow a mere man, blah, blah, blah. And Rand give her the choice of follow him or stay away from him, his lands, his channelers and the last battle as unless they are with him, they'd be more of a hinderance then a help. And she FINALLY has the revelation that Rand not her is the one who will save the world.
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