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Thanks for the confirmation about the vileness. Phelix Send a noteboard - 30/09/2010 04:49:50 AM
She hates men and is uptight. She lacks a sense of humor. Seems like a perfect red to me . . . .

I seem to recall Moiraine saying that Elaida hates men... but from her PoVs and her actions in the series, I don't see much proof of it.

Uptight and lacking a sense of humor describes most Aes Sedai. Try again. ;)

I've always been under the impression that she was involved in the illegal gentling of male channelers, but I don't have anything to back that up except my (possibly faulty) memory. I think there might be something mentioned subtly in one of her chats with Alviarin, when Alviarin says something like "that's a dangerous number to say out loud."

I think since Elaida doesn't like anyone, you could say she doesn't like men :)

TPOD

The Extra Bit

That had been Toveine’s life these past twenty years. And Elaida had slipped through the cracks uncaught, danced her way to the Amyrlin Seat that Toveine had once dreamed of for herself. No, she was not grateful. But she had learned to wait her chance.


I wonder how involved Elaida could have been, really. She was, at best, a sister for two or three years when the vileness began. I wouldn't think she would be able to get that involved, or be influential enough to merit the same kind of punishment Toveine received considering Toveine was a Sitter during the vileness (and so has to be at least 100 years older than Elaida).

and she clearly doesn't hate all men...as some Reds do ... or at least she's not rabid about it... she seemingly LIKED Master Gill.

tGH

Summond

"You should know, Daughter," the Amyrlin said dryly, "that Elaida harms no one except those she considers dangerous. Darkfriends, or those poor fool men who try to channel the One Power. Or one who threatens Tar Valon. Everyone else who isn't Aes Sedai might as well be pieces on a stones board as far as she is concerned. Luckily for him, the innkeeper, one Master Gill as I remember, apparently thinks much of Aes Sedai, and so answered her questions to her satisfaction. Elaida actually spoke well of him. But she spoke more of the young man you took away with you. More dangerous than any man since Artur Hawkwing, she said. She has the Foretelling sometimes, you know, and her words carried weight with the Hall."


So she's not an indiscriminate man-hater. :|

Being a lesbian (as evidenced by her relationship with Medani) doesn't make her a man hater either!


I totally agree, though I wouldn't say she is necessarily a lesbian. She could be bisexual, or a situational lesbian.
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Elaida's ajah Phelix - 29/09/2010 11:39:53 PM 1835 Views
Re: Elaida's ajah MissKoalaVB - 30/09/2010 01:00:32 AM 977 Views
What has she done that shows she hates men? Phelix - 30/09/2010 01:03:52 AM 1066 Views
I don't think she hates all men darius_sedai - 30/09/2010 04:39:00 AM 1054 Views
Thanks for the confirmation about the vileness. Phelix - 30/09/2010 04:49:50 AM 1078 Views
Elaida's more like a Slytherin. I can't really think of any causes she has Deadsy - 30/09/2010 06:20:04 AM 1001 Views
actually there's a bit where suian thinks that elaida's hated her since she beat her to Foxhead - 30/09/2010 08:59:01 AM 830 Views
She was strong, that's all Aes Sedai need. Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2010 08:26:17 AM 985 Views
I probably need to re-read Deadsy - 30/09/2010 01:09:55 AM 992 Views
Hehe... I need to reread too. Phelix - 30/09/2010 01:13:05 AM 923 Views
I wonder if RJ ever planned on Thom getting revenge Deadsy - 30/09/2010 01:20:35 AM 826 Views
I have a secret fantasy/hope... Phelix - 30/09/2010 01:26:07 AM 1076 Views
I think that might happen anyway Deadsy - 30/09/2010 01:36:26 AM 795 Views
That'd be quite funny. Phelix - 30/09/2010 03:08:00 AM 990 Views
lol that would be epic Ryan - 30/09/2010 05:57:43 AM 842 Views
suian lies to the rebel Hall about elaida Foxhead - 30/09/2010 07:41:02 AM 820 Views
I know... but she was still involved in the vileness *NM* Deadsy - 30/09/2010 09:16:43 AM 343 Views
She thinks those that channel are unclean and have rejected the light IIRC. Rurouni_Kenshin - 30/09/2010 08:28:43 AM 783 Views
I remember this vaguely now that you mention it Deadsy - 30/09/2010 09:18:22 AM 859 Views
Link to that essay posted below RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/09/2010 03:23:05 PM 955 Views
But she might not always have been like that Sidious - 01/10/2010 03:44:57 PM 848 Views
seems to me that she would have been like this early on since she participated in the darius_sedai - 01/10/2010 09:58:09 PM 754 Views
I always thought of it as a fall-back ajah Sidious - 30/09/2010 05:32:19 AM 935 Views
To me, it seems more like Tower politics. orius - 30/09/2010 07:23:19 AM 1049 Views
Re: A few reasons to join Watcher - 30/09/2010 11:06:55 AM 886 Views
Funny, I always considered the Bluye as the fall-back Ajah. Fanatic-Templar - 30/09/2010 06:35:18 PM 858 Views
see, and I've always seen the Greens as a the fall-back Ajah LadyLorraine - 30/09/2010 08:09:03 PM 757 Views
At least I guess we can all agree that the Yellow aren't a fall-back Ajah *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2010 06:44:06 AM 438 Views
Thats because Yellows are superior *NM* Sidious - 01/10/2010 03:42:45 PM 352 Views
They're Aes Sedai. Fanatic-Templar - 02/10/2010 02:39:12 AM 796 Views
Totally superior! 3000 years using 1 weave to heal the upper crust of society darius_sedai - 02/10/2010 02:12:28 PM 644 Views
+1 Joel - 01/10/2010 09:30:41 AM 909 Views
Elaida is pretty clearly a Red Ajah-link to great article that summarizes the point better included RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/09/2010 03:22:14 PM 1059 Views
Nitpick Rurouni_Kenshin - 03/10/2010 10:44:06 AM 785 Views
I think she's not a Blue because there's already an Ajah for her particular "cause. " Joel - 01/10/2010 05:13:53 AM 820 Views
The Red, Green & Yellow Ajah's all seem to have nothing to do malekithe - 01/10/2010 07:06:55 AM 870 Views
They've got plenty to do, they just aren't doing it. Joel - 01/10/2010 09:28:33 AM 866 Views
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