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Elaida's ajah Phelix Send a noteboard - 29/09/2010 11:39:53 PM
So I've been thinking a lot about Elaida recently, among other Reds, and have come to the conclusion that she doesn't make sense as a Red.

She doesn't have much in the way of motivation, but what little she has would, in my opinion, push a young woman to become a Gray or a Blue. She has the Foretelling, like a strong, famous Blue (Gitara Moroso) and she likely would have studied with the older Aes Sedai as an Accepted to better understand her Talent. During that training, Gitara likely would have set hooks into Elaida's mind and thoughts about joining the Blue ajah.

Elaida herself fortold that the Royal House of Andor would be the key to winning Tarmon Gaidon, and we know that Blues and Grays are the most commonly politically oriented Aes Sedai.

Now, if one took her foretelling as her reason for joining an Ajah, the Green would make more sense because the Greens are actively looking toward the Last Battle. Their purpose is to be ready to fight the LB, and someone who had a foretelling regarding the LB could be an incredible asset to the Greens, especially if she had more foretellings.

The Red Ajah's purpose is to preserve the World, protecting it from the destruction mad channelers would wreak. But Elaida hasn't done that, at all as far as we can see. As a young sister, she might have been part of the vileness, when roving bands of Reds Gentled men on sight, but for the last 20 years of plot time, she's been the advisor to Morgase.

Which is another connection to Gitara Moroso who went from being the Blue Keeper to being Aes Sedai advisor to the Queen of Andor before Morgase.

Is there some conversation I'm forgetting? Did Elaida think about why she chose to be a Red and I have just buried it out of sight and mind? Was it a machination of Galina's that pulled Elaida into the Red camp?

Or, was Elaida as a Red just a plot contrivance? Was she set up to be a foil to the Blue Ajah as a whole, but Gitara and Moiraine in particular? She really is a foolish version of Gitara, while she also mirrors Moiraine in many ways.

Thoughts?
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Elaida's ajah - 29/09/2010 11:39:53 PM 2040 Views
Re: Elaida's ajah - 30/09/2010 01:00:32 AM 1187 Views
What has she done that shows she hates men? - 30/09/2010 01:03:52 AM 1273 Views
I don't think she hates all men - 30/09/2010 04:39:00 AM 1242 Views
Thanks for the confirmation about the vileness. - 30/09/2010 04:49:50 AM 1360 Views
She was strong, that's all Aes Sedai need. - 30/09/2010 08:26:17 AM 1242 Views
I probably need to re-read - 30/09/2010 01:09:55 AM 1145 Views
Hehe... I need to reread too. - 30/09/2010 01:13:05 AM 1132 Views
I wonder if RJ ever planned on Thom getting revenge - 30/09/2010 01:20:35 AM 1010 Views
I have a secret fantasy/hope... - 30/09/2010 01:26:07 AM 1297 Views
I think that might happen anyway - 30/09/2010 01:36:26 AM 980 Views
That'd be quite funny. - 30/09/2010 03:08:00 AM 1263 Views
lol that would be epic - 30/09/2010 05:57:43 AM 1038 Views
suian lies to the rebel Hall about elaida - 30/09/2010 07:41:02 AM 1026 Views
I know... but she was still involved in the vileness *NM* - 30/09/2010 09:16:43 AM 433 Views
She thinks those that channel are unclean and have rejected the light IIRC. - 30/09/2010 08:28:43 AM 991 Views
I remember this vaguely now that you mention it - 30/09/2010 09:18:22 AM 1037 Views
Link to that essay posted below - 30/09/2010 03:23:05 PM 1172 Views
But she might not always have been like that - 01/10/2010 03:44:57 PM 1041 Views
I always thought of it as a fall-back ajah - 30/09/2010 05:32:19 AM 1132 Views
To me, it seems more like Tower politics. - 30/09/2010 07:23:19 AM 1235 Views
Re: A few reasons to join - 30/09/2010 11:06:55 AM 1081 Views
Funny, I always considered the Bluye as the fall-back Ajah. - 30/09/2010 06:35:18 PM 1038 Views
see, and I've always seen the Greens as a the fall-back Ajah - 30/09/2010 08:09:03 PM 935 Views
At least I guess we can all agree that the Yellow aren't a fall-back Ajah *NM* - 01/10/2010 06:44:06 AM 528 Views
Thats because Yellows are superior *NM* - 01/10/2010 03:42:45 PM 443 Views
They're Aes Sedai. - 02/10/2010 02:39:12 AM 978 Views
+1 - 01/10/2010 09:30:41 AM 1107 Views
Elaida is pretty clearly a Red Ajah-link to great article that summarizes the point better included - 30/09/2010 03:22:14 PM 1270 Views
Nitpick - 03/10/2010 10:44:06 AM 979 Views
I think she's not a Blue because there's already an Ajah for her particular "cause. " - 01/10/2010 05:13:53 AM 1025 Views
The Red, Green & Yellow Ajah's all seem to have nothing to do - 01/10/2010 07:06:55 AM 1079 Views
They've got plenty to do, they just aren't doing it. - 01/10/2010 09:28:33 AM 1063 Views

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