I remember the timeline was discussed much at TL prior to TGS release.
Tamyrlin Send a noteboard - 26/09/2010 03:04:24 AM
Dom, question - do we know for certain that Brandon picks the order of the chapters? I'd be surprised if Harriet left that to Brandon to determine, but maybe there is some interview quote out there that says Brandon chooses it?
And I thought this quote was applicable to this discussion, something from TL that you wrote earlier in 2009 before TGS was released. http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1602&page=2
It's really quite possible that in TGS Rand and Egwene's story lines mirror one another as Perrin's and Rand's did in TSR. That would explain why Brandon decided to stack them together instead of Perrin + Rand, Egwene + Mat, for example. From another report, I understood that Brandon said TGS has the build up to TG from two story lines (Egwene + Rand, it seems), and 'teasers' for clusters 3-4, while book 13 will have the core events on the same timeline for Mat and Perrin, and the second part of the books will bring together everything. So basically, we could say we have the first 2/3 of Rand and Egwene in TGS with 1/3 or Mat and Perrin, and in book 13 there will be the last 2/3 of Mat/Perrin and the last third of Rand/Egwene. Linda and myself expect that cluster #5, in which Brandon put Elayne, Taim, the Bordermen etc. will be mostly absent from TGS.
The only worry I have is that it sounds fairly similar to what RJ attempted with WH/COT/KOD. It worked for me, and I don't mind that much to have to wait one more year before really getting into Mat/Perrin. I probably have to brace myself even more for the fact the book will be highly criticized. It's what I dislike about CoT - the fact more time is spent defending/attacking it than discussing it.
I'm with you about this particular format of the books; tackling story lines like this invites a high level of criticism as it pertains to chronology and potential chronological mistakes. But I'm hoping we spend more time discussing the content of these books rather than defending/attacking them. I do understand that your criticism has more to do with the way that Team Jordan decided to organize chapters in TGS and possibly ToM. But, there is nothing we can do about it, like arguing about Sweet covers at this point, don't you think?
And I thought this quote was applicable to this discussion, something from TL that you wrote earlier in 2009 before TGS was released. http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1602&page=2
It's really quite possible that in TGS Rand and Egwene's story lines mirror one another as Perrin's and Rand's did in TSR. That would explain why Brandon decided to stack them together instead of Perrin + Rand, Egwene + Mat, for example. From another report, I understood that Brandon said TGS has the build up to TG from two story lines (Egwene + Rand, it seems), and 'teasers' for clusters 3-4, while book 13 will have the core events on the same timeline for Mat and Perrin, and the second part of the books will bring together everything. So basically, we could say we have the first 2/3 of Rand and Egwene in TGS with 1/3 or Mat and Perrin, and in book 13 there will be the last 2/3 of Mat/Perrin and the last third of Rand/Egwene. Linda and myself expect that cluster #5, in which Brandon put Elayne, Taim, the Bordermen etc. will be mostly absent from TGS.
The only worry I have is that it sounds fairly similar to what RJ attempted with WH/COT/KOD. It worked for me, and I don't mind that much to have to wait one more year before really getting into Mat/Perrin. I probably have to brace myself even more for the fact the book will be highly criticized. It's what I dislike about CoT - the fact more time is spent defending/attacking it than discussing it.
I'm with you about this particular format of the books; tackling story lines like this invites a high level of criticism as it pertains to chronology and potential chronological mistakes. But I'm hoping we spend more time discussing the content of these books rather than defending/attacking them. I do understand that your criticism has more to do with the way that Team Jordan decided to organize chapters in TGS and possibly ToM. But, there is nothing we can do about it, like arguing about Sweet covers at this point, don't you think?
Jason's review... Looks like DomA was right (Review is now removed)
25/09/2010 05:40:18 AM
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Re: Jason's review (spoilerish thoughts from me, so BEWARE!). Looks like DomA was right
25/09/2010 06:00:46 AM
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Everyone seems to think Rand will talk to Egwene, but a male channeler also makes sense
25/09/2010 10:44:18 PM
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No Elayne hopefully, but again it looks like Egwene has everything fall in her lap
25/09/2010 08:10:54 AM
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No Elayne hopefully, but again it looks like Egwene has everything fall in her lap
25/09/2010 08:11:37 AM
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Perrin will probably gather the wolves...
25/09/2010 09:57:06 AM
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this "we like it because it's family" stuff is worrisome
25/09/2010 10:18:22 AM
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After his COT review, a less then gushing review isn't great
25/09/2010 11:42:39 AM
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But he is specifically trying to avoid being overly fanboyish BECAUSE of that CoT review. *NM*
27/09/2010 04:19:21 PM
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Damn, his COT review was infinitely more enthusiastic. What could it all mean? *NM*
25/09/2010 01:06:00 PM
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But his CoT review was also more enthusiastic than his KoD and TGS reviews *NM*
25/09/2010 01:07:15 PM
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Hmm, interesting point. Could a guilty conscience be setting in? *NM*
25/09/2010 01:26:30 PM
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I'm guessing Olver will sacrifice his Snakes and Foxes game his father made for him *NM*
25/09/2010 06:09:10 PM
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I haven't read the review but...
25/09/2010 07:22:48 PM
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That's not what I meant...
25/09/2010 08:25:42 PM
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It's odd, I didn't see any reference to Rand descending from DM in his review.
25/09/2010 08:39:33 PM
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It was the very last line...
25/09/2010 08:55:49 PM
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Re: It was the very last line...
25/09/2010 09:03:14 PM
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Re: It was the very last line...
25/09/2010 10:09:58 PM
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I blame JordanCon too.
26/09/2010 02:17:50 AM
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Regarding the WOTFAQ, Tam,
26/09/2010 10:04:40 PM
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Regarding Brandon's messing up of the timelines...
25/09/2010 11:34:06 PM
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To me it's two different things
26/09/2010 01:48:13 AM
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I remember the timeline was discussed much at TL prior to TGS release.
26/09/2010 03:04:24 AM
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Re: I remember the timeline was discussed much at TL prior to TGS release.
26/09/2010 08:31:00 PM
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KOD and TOM show where TGS could have been 'fixed'
26/09/2010 10:27:04 AM
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The review is back up...
27/09/2010 01:59:50 AM
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It wasn't quite identical... It was missing the line about Rand walking down from DM
27/09/2010 06:42:47 AM
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The line about Rand wasn't there when I read the review Saturday morning either. *NM*
27/09/2010 01:57:00 PM
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It was...
27/09/2010 04:22:24 PM
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I must have missed it then. It does fit with Tor's not releasing Chapter 1 early. *NM*
27/09/2010 05:06:36 PM
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What do you mean?
27/09/2010 11:33:15 PM
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I read somewhere that they'd release two different chapters this time. Could well be wrong though. *NM*
28/09/2010 02:15:28 AM
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Olver
27/09/2010 11:34:40 AM
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doubt he'll die. Jason's review is too much of a spoiler if he actually dies *NM*
27/09/2010 11:46:16 AM
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One problem with the idea of a Rand-Egwene meeting in Chapter 1 beyond timeline issues
27/09/2010 10:29:15 PM
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Not true...
28/09/2010 01:00:40 AM
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Good call. I assumed, and still do, that the two events are one in the same.
28/09/2010 01:10:13 AM
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Not true indeed... and....
28/09/2010 02:24:00 AM
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