Yeah I think that is by far the most interesting aspect of Perrin's plotline
BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 23/09/2010 01:11:27 AM
One of the unique aspects about Hopper is that he is not a human, he's a wolf. The narrative tries hard to make this clear, I believe--they have their own set of morals different from ours, and RJ/Sanderson give us hints here and there at how different their world is to ours. Sure, by human standards, Hopper is a homicidal maniac--I completely agree with you. By wolf standards, he's just, well, a wolf.
I don't blame Hopper for thinking and doing as he does--we don't say a Lion is a "terrible animal" if it attacks a gazelle--it's just how lions are. But we CAN blame Perrin for allowing Hopper's wolf-mentality to guide Perrin into performing acts that are undoubtedly maniacal by human standards. The Pattern may want Perrin to accept his wolf brothers, but he should only use them as a tool; they cannot inform his judgment.
IMO, the hammer and the axe represent more than the builder/destroyer; they also represent his constant struggle for humanity against the insanity of the wolves. I hope he plants himself firmly back in the world of man to keep from losing his mind.
I don't blame Hopper for thinking and doing as he does--we don't say a Lion is a "terrible animal" if it attacks a gazelle--it's just how lions are. But we CAN blame Perrin for allowing Hopper's wolf-mentality to guide Perrin into performing acts that are undoubtedly maniacal by human standards. The Pattern may want Perrin to accept his wolf brothers, but he should only use them as a tool; they cannot inform his judgment.
IMO, the hammer and the axe represent more than the builder/destroyer; they also represent his constant struggle for humanity against the insanity of the wolves. I hope he plants himself firmly back in the world of man to keep from losing his mind.
That is, how he will stop himself from going insane. I will honestly be very surprised if the wolves 'win' in that regard.
But I have to disagree with the two of you on this point: I don't think Hopper is really any more a 'homicidal maniac' than Rand is, for example. He's just out there to do the dirty work and kick the ass that needs kicking. In t'a'r/the Wolf Dream, his main job is to protect Perrin. We see this in a number of ways, from him physically guarding him, to attacking potential threats, to warning Perrin that he is in the Dream too strongly, etc. He's not a maniac who kills everything. There is a purpose and method to it and honestly I don't see how Cannoli can think he has helped the Shadow.
/Survey. Hopper
- 22/09/2010 10:09:02 PM
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I like Hopper and enjoy his scenes. I wish he'd rip the throat out of "Young Bull". *NM*
- 22/09/2010 10:31:38 PM
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Perrin should be wearing that 3 Wolves t-shirt that amazon made so popular! *NM*
- 23/09/2010 12:00:56 AM
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If Hopper wasn't a homocidal maniac, some of the best Children of the Light would not hate Perrin
- 23/09/2010 12:49:59 AM
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Well, he's not a person, so he's not literally the worst person
- 23/09/2010 12:58:11 AM
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Yeah I think that is by far the most interesting aspect of Perrin's plotline
- 23/09/2010 01:11:27 AM
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Did I say he had? In fact I said the opposite. Why trust the opinions of one so poor at reading?
- 23/09/2010 01:44:01 AM
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Hopper gets Wolf Bloodlust = insane throat ripping of anything around.
- 23/09/2010 02:16:24 AM
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Who cares? They suck and everyone would be better off if they just died anyway. *NM*
- 23/09/2010 01:12:42 AM
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The Children are like, the ONLY good extranational organization in the series, not founded by Rand *NM*
- 23/09/2010 01:44:44 AM
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Can't resist... How exactly?
- 23/09/2010 03:56:44 AM
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They didn't "usurp" anything. Ailron still reigned and even had his own independant army
- 23/09/2010 04:56:06 AM
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How about the massacre of a village on Almoth plain.
- 23/09/2010 10:54:26 AM
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Bornhald DID deplore it, and he kept Byar back at Falme partly to tell Niall about it
- 23/09/2010 06:21:30 PM
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I guess if you thought the Spanish Inquisition was righteous... *NM*
- 23/09/2010 04:37:46 AM
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Even if that were right
- 23/09/2010 04:46:59 AM
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The Band and any use from the Illuminators fall under Rand as well.
- 23/09/2010 05:03:09 AM
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Perrin's part in TG just better be kick ass...
- 23/09/2010 03:36:31 AM
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Even his part in the prologue sucked:
- 23/09/2010 05:07:59 AM
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Perrin is horrible. You know who rocks? Elyas Machera
- 23/09/2010 03:28:22 PM
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Except it's not in character, unfortunately. Main char are people who step up, not hide in the wild
- 23/09/2010 06:33:30 PM
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