i'm up to tsr on the reread and there's an interesting bit where moiraine tells thom to go to tanchico and promises him that he'll survive the adventure. this is after her stepping through the ter'angreal doorway, which means that in someway she learnt of his future from the finns
perhaps that he will be one to rescue her?
perhaps that he will be one to rescue her?
I doubt she'd have wasted a question on Thom, given what she already had to go on, and the other urgent issues facing her.
Indeed. She also warned against frivolous questions... Mat asking whom he will marry would not have been frivolous, as it happens, but from Moiraine it most definitely would - or appear so to her anyway.
Much points toward the fact the Finns don't have all the answers either. They can't foresee the Shadow, that is foreign to the Pattern; they can't have answers completely unrelated to the person involved (they seem to read your own thread); they don't seem able to give you the unimportant answers, things which aren't written in stone in your future.
It sounds indeed likely Moiraine had a question about how best to guide Rand, and she got a riddle about saidar as an answer. At least, she mysteriously (and with a smug look) answered Egwene asking in the Waste that she remembered how to guide saidar. She could have gotten there on her own, or she may have understood the riddle.
She was extremely concerned about Rand's next move, so it sounds quite possible she found a way to ask about what hers should be. This could be why she responded how she responded to the whole thing about Rhuidean or the WO. She could have been answered a riddle about getting a sign from dreams, or her path being traced in sleep or some such.
The Finns being the Finns, Moiraine's answers would have been mostly frustrating and useless at first, until she started puzzling them out. Having one would help her puzzling out the two others. We saw the very frustrated Moiraine in Tear, and once she was in the Waste she changed, and rather rapidly after Rhuidean.
It sounds fairly likely one of her answers gave guidance as to how she should deal with what she learned in Rhuidean (though that may be barely related to the question she asked - not the answer she'd expected to get).
My hunch is that her third answer is something she will be able to puzzle out only once she's rescued and learn some of what is going on. I have no idea what she asked precisely, but I think it will have to do with what the most important thing for her to do in the future must be... She could have gotten a multi-part answer, not unlike Rand (and for that matter, Mat).
This message last edited by DomA on 19/09/2010 at 07:22:46 PM
moiraine's three questions
18/09/2010 12:21:52 AM
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She knew he'd survive because Min told Moiraine they end up together, and they weren't a couple yet.
18/09/2010 12:56:09 AM
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Can that really be right?
18/09/2010 06:44:40 PM
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That is her "thimble of hope" that she mentions twice *NM*
18/09/2010 07:41:23 PM
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Re: That is her "thimble of hope" that she mentions twice
18/09/2010 08:19:03 PM
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She needs to have known that she would see Thom again
18/09/2010 08:25:37 PM
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Re: She needs to have known that she would see Thom again
18/09/2010 09:26:26 PM
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It doesn't change your point, but I know she hadn't entered the doorway yet. It was in this chapter
18/09/2010 11:58:53 PM
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You're misinterpreting which viewing is the one which Min believes turned out wrong.
19/09/2010 03:33:04 AM
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????
19/09/2010 06:08:11 AM
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It's something that you have to work out for yourself, it's not thrown in your face.
19/09/2010 06:35:43 PM
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I see your logic trail, I just don't think Min would have told something like that to Moiraine
20/09/2010 09:46:01 PM
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Dude. She tells Moiraine about it immediately upon first seeing Thom in Baerlon.
21/09/2010 12:13:58 AM
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No, you're the one who's wrong.
19/09/2010 07:54:02 PM
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*shrugs* ... as I stated before I see the logic you are all pointing too ... it just doesn't seem
20/09/2010 09:48:02 PM
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Are you forgetting EOTW? It was crystal clear that Min told Moiraine about all of her viewings
20/09/2010 09:56:36 PM
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I'm going to make one last attempt before giving up
20/09/2010 10:03:54 PM
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it's likely
18/09/2010 07:53:30 PM
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And she said the husband comment before going to the Aelfinn, and believed his survival back in EotW
19/09/2010 12:15:26 AM
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Re: And she said the husband comment before going to the Aelfinn...
19/09/2010 08:20:29 PM
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She probably asked how to best guide and protect Rand
19/09/2010 12:20:56 AM
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I tend to agree
19/09/2010 07:08:50 PM
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