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Faile, love aside, has a very balanced, educated and experienced POV. More than many WoT grrls. newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 15/09/2010 04:06:41 AM
IF NOT MORE SO???

I remember both characters being pretty good POV reading when I read the series the first time, but the more I reread the less I like these characters. I think Nynaeve may actually be MORE annoying than Faile. She's still entertaining me, at least.


Kiera and some others make great points. My two cents:

Egwene was the mayor's daughter, worked in the inn, spun wool, and kept all the other girls away from the guy she wanted (cause he was the most exotic). Her attitudes have been so petulant that she's "missed the point" of whatever was going on - that's when you've got problems. She has so many good qualities, but likes to praise herself and can act horribly superior.

Nynaeve spent all her time caring for wounded and trying to help her people. Such responsibility is impressive. She's also industrious, brave, and willing to do what's right. Still, she truly earned my despise with her incessant bullying. She would have the occasional moment of normalcy, but she was so bad when she was bad (and so often so) that I couldn't really stand her. I have a respectful attitude toward her sudden maturity of the past two books.

Min was tending horses, loving older guys, and reading the future. That last certainly matures someone a bunch, and she could display that a lot.

Faile was well-educated and took the mantle of responsibility at a young age. When she talks to Perrin about other things - both early on and now - she often displays a practical understanding of life and the World. She can see how things are, and accept that that's what works, or that's what people will push for, things like that. And really, that alone can always set Faile far below Nynaeve in nuisance factor. She actually and often acts like a real person without too many glaring emotional problems that they can't help but display around others. Then she gets into the issues with her man and she sounds like a crafty, sneaky, super-crazypants nutjob. So it is with many people.

Faile is actually very much like early Min at times (sensible, clever, experienced), and also has a lot in common with Elayne (who I'm surprised she never met before the books). I get the feeling that if Elayne had to work the hardest out of all the Wot grrls, Faile would come in second place (it's hard to measure, but that's my guess). Faile is courageous and has none of the advantages that many of the other WoT women have. She can be a pain, but I seldom struggle to remember that she's worthwhile to read, as I have with some of the other people I have mentioned.
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Anybody else think Nynaeve is easily as annoying as Faile? - 14/09/2010 05:43:21 AM 1903 Views
NOOOOOO!!!1!!eleven! *NM* - 14/09/2010 05:48:48 AM 352 Views
on the reread, egwene is annoying me the most so far - 14/09/2010 08:53:30 AM 1146 Views
Not me, love reading from Nynaeve's POV *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:11:20 AM 460 Views
I find Nynaeve more annoying. - 14/09/2010 02:14:30 PM 938 Views
Re: I find Nynaeve more annoying. - 14/09/2010 02:53:18 PM 1132 Views
I like Nynaeve more every time I re-read - 14/09/2010 02:25:13 PM 781 Views
Faile is not annoying, Nynaeve on the other hand... *NM* - 14/09/2010 02:51:55 PM 328 Views
Nynave cooler than Faile - 14/09/2010 04:50:51 PM 803 Views
I love Nynaeve - 14/09/2010 05:22:01 PM 807 Views
OMG I'm so glad to know I'm not the only intelligent person here! *NM* - 14/09/2010 07:26:26 PM 361 Views
Thanks, but its only my personal opinion *NM* - 14/09/2010 07:32:09 PM 318 Views
I don't find Faile annoying, and I love Nynaeve. - 15/09/2010 12:05:48 AM 818 Views
Ditto. On all three points. - 15/09/2010 12:12:21 AM 758 Views
Agreed - 16/09/2010 03:04:08 PM 715 Views
double post, please ignore *NM* - 16/09/2010 03:04:32 PM 351 Views
Nynaeve was ruined by Egwene's rise to authority over her. - 15/09/2010 01:04:58 AM 802 Views
I still like Nynaeve, but... - 15/09/2010 02:26:00 AM 754 Views
Interesting thing here - 17/09/2010 12:57:33 PM 647 Views
Faile, love aside, has a very balanced, educated and experienced POV. More than many WoT grrls. - 15/09/2010 04:06:41 AM 753 Views
Nyn is my favorite female. Faile is my second favorite. - 16/09/2010 06:22:01 PM 726 Views
I think it goes both ways - 17/09/2010 07:11:48 AM 679 Views
Not even close. And Tuon is most annoying. NM *NM* - 17/09/2010 12:51:43 AM 404 Views
They're not the most annoying though. - 17/09/2010 07:20:33 AM 747 Views

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