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Then... (and about The End of a Legend) - Edit 1

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Which means not all chapters are represented. There are 57 chapters plus prologue and epilogue. We know the prologue was excluded because the title was already released, and the Mat excerpt now appears to be a full chapter, the title of which is not a valid code, and it's most likely chapter 1 since that's usually the logical first release aside from the prologue (this is just a more interesting way to release it, along with the chapter titles).


He most likely left out those which are not spoilerish in the course of reading the book, but that would tell a little too much if read out of context (eg titles like "A wedding", "Blood and Fire".

Harriet also has a good track record for finding titles that sound terribly obvious (often those in the "gasp!" category, but which are most of the time misleading. I'd be especially wary of something like "The End of a Legend". It way too obviously could mean "The Death of Cadsuane", and unless Cadsuane is on her death bed the scene before, that'd be most un-Harriet like to be so blunt (which was pretty much the first thing I commented last year what I said when I heard of The Death of Tuon: "well, one thing we know is that Tuon isn't gonna die in this chapter"...).

It could still be an ending of some kind for Cadsuane (she might do something to put an end to her legend. In truth, she's got herself a little trapped for using her legendary status a little too freely... this chapter could be her mea culpa POV, for example her reunion with Rand that turns into mutual apologies, and introduces what Cadsuane still has to teach. I've speculated in an "apology scene" she might come to reveal to Rand how exactly Toothie shaped her up and made her the formidable woman she is, and how she had hoped to do the same thing to Rand but failed. "Have you, really?", Rand might answer back). My theory is that Cadsuane's youth story is of the rather humiliating kind. Imagine newly Cadsuane, fleeing the Tower before she gets saddled to something by the Ajah Head, hunting for a warder but being choosy, wandering unprudently to have adventures, and ending up in a little village in the Black Hills, where in the full arrogance of her new shawl and great strength she's decided the old Wisdom there didn't keep a low enough profile for a non-AS (and perhaps was training one or two apprentices...). Cadsuane decided to bring her down a few notches and put the fear of the Light in this wilder (an minor alternate version to that would be that Toothie was humanely keeping an eye on a young male sparker from her village - both to keep him safe as long as possible before kindly killing him when madness showed, andto spare him the horror of being caught by Red AS, treated as criminal then abandonned to die. It could be Toothie who shaped Cadsuane's views of male channellers, and showed her to be kind when she could).... but Cadsuane's strength, even her ability at all were meaningless because of Toothie's paralis net - and Cadsuane ended up a prisoner of the old Wilder, who over months taught her what the WT had not managed to teach her, about her strength, her character, authority, that her ability won't always be enough to protect her from ending in a pickle if she's too arrogant or careless, and so on (perhaps about male channellers too, as I said). As Cadsuane progressed, Toothie was giving her Such a scenario would end up tying Cadsuane to Nynaeve's back story as Wisdom (especially if Nynaeve starts to stand up to Cadsuane... she could remind her of Toothie...) as well as to her intro scene in New Spring. If there's a male channeller involved in the adventure, it would also tie Cadsuane to Rand's story. Ending up captured and broken would also tie with Semirhage's last weeks... and the way Rand treated her would also go back to her humiliation by Toothie, and Cadsuane would remember the lesson and admit to herself she thought too highly of herself and her skills again, and paid again for it.

Telling this story to someone would put an "end to the Legend" of Cadsuane the Invicible for that person (be it Rand, or Nynaeve, or the WO).

An alternate solution is that this chapter is the one in which Nynaeve finally manages to grab publicly the tiller from Cadsuane by putting her in her place (and tell herself at the end, "well, I guess today I put an end to a Legend"... or started a new one...), and take the lead of the AS in Tear. By the WT system, it's her right - if she wishes the authority over all sisters there including Cadsuane, it's hers for the taking. One thing for sure, there's a Nynaeve-Cadsuane confrontation coming (I'm far more doubtful there's a Moiraine-Cadsuane one... I just don't see the point, and I don't see how Jordan could possibly have had in mind to put Moiraine above Nynaeve so far near the end... Nynaeve is clearly the "heir" of Moiraine and Cadsuane as the AS near Rand, and she has to come into her own and put those two in her shadow before the end. I tend to think Nynaeve will resolve her issues with Moiraine as an adult, and that leaves a battle of wills with Cadsuane. After what Cadsuane did, using Nynaeve, it shouldn't be long in coming, as Nynaeve seeks to repair the damages done with Tam, then try to find Rand).

A non-Cadsuane possibility for this chapter is from TGS. Brandon established this silly gag about Mat setting up "legends".

Yet another is a Thom POV. Surely there's no shortage of possibilities (most of which we can't puzzle out now) for him to reflect he's seeing the end of a legend in something he witnesses.

A very surprising possibility concerns the Band of the Red Hand. Perhaps against all odds they will be annihilated in the battle of Caemlyn, defending Elayne as before they died at Aemon's side to protect Ellisande and the flight of her people, fulfilling the "severed hand, not hers" viewing. With the Band in Caemlyn, we know Elayne's ties to them are coming soon, one way or another (some have suggested by the time Mat reaches Caemlyn, he'll find out Elayne/Brigitte have, in emulation of Roedran, made an offer to hire the Band, and the commander of the first half accepted... or at least he agreed to report regularly to Elayne, and camp where she would have them (not close to the walls), and treats her like well... the Queen in her palace, binding Mat to do the same when he arrives. He would be... so pleased.

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