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Too bad! He has trumped any attempt to counter his arguments by calling it humor! Shut up now. *NM* Cannoli Send a noteboard - 06/09/2010 01:00:49 AM
Rand's scenario is this: He is the sole person who can save the world, and the absolute best he can hope for is to die in the process. He has the voice of a LTT, the Kinslayer, in his head, he channeled a tainted Saidin out of necessity for ages, he's had everything and everyone he loves taken from him, turned against him, or in the worst, been forced to act against those he loves (his actions towards the Two Rivers and especially Min). Oh, and he was stabbed by Fain's blade. We know how corrupting his voice is (look at Elaida) so imagine what that wound is doing? Not to mention Ishmael's wound.

Oh, and then there's fun little experiences like losing a hand to a fireball, being shown that your mother, who you never even met, is being personally held and tortured by the Dark One himself, being kept inside a box for a month and being let out only to be beaten (or worse - to helplessly watch your loved one being beaten)...

Honestly, it's a miracle that Rand didn't just destroy the world. He has flaws, true, but in his case the majority of his bad judgments can be attributed to the way life has shaped him.

Egwene on the flip side, has been pampered by the author. All of her bad judgments are excused or ignored because of the way the books are written (for example, why not keep at least SOME of the BA prisoner? Still them first to be safe, but don't miss out on the information they hold!). While I liked Egwene well enough in KoD, I think TGS played her into the martyr role a little to easily for me take it seriously. She hasn't actually experienced any mental hardships that I can think of beyond the physical treatment she received, and that pales against what Rand got.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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Rand vs Egwene... one-line scenarios - 05/09/2010 05:21:08 PM 2737 Views
loled at every one *NM* - 05/09/2010 05:35:03 PM 655 Views
Good for some sunday night relief I hope *NM* - 05/09/2010 09:51:10 PM 596 Views
Hmm... I don't think you want to read the rebuttal to that *NM* - 05/09/2010 06:07:16 PM 812 Views
True - 05/09/2010 09:52:09 PM 1115 Views
But you've already read my post *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:53:58 PM 675 Views
I only used one eye *NM* - 06/09/2010 11:52:19 AM 567 Views
Still counts *NM* - 06/09/2010 03:06:44 PM 596 Views
*NM* - 06/09/2010 01:02:44 AM 557 Views
Corrected for the sake of accuracy . - 05/09/2010 06:51:58 PM 1189 Views
Nonsense... - 05/09/2010 09:56:41 PM 993 Views
Gotta love Dark Templar - 05/09/2010 10:14:00 PM 1089 Views
That's partly why I didn't post a reply poking at her. *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:56:15 PM 672 Views
Poking whom? - 06/09/2010 01:20:32 AM 1035 Views
Egwene. I thought that was implied *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:03:25 AM 589 Views
Nice. *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:37:38 PM 588 Views
nice *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:12:31 PM 538 Views
*drumroll* *NM* - 05/09/2010 09:56:54 PM 625 Views
That whole post is stupid, you can't compare Rand's ordeal to Egwene's. - 05/09/2010 10:14:43 PM 1150 Views
its a joke, shhhh *NM* - 05/09/2010 10:36:28 PM 780 Views
No, it's clever and tongue-in-cheek. *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:04:26 PM 607 Views
Too bad! He has trumped any attempt to counter his arguments by calling it humor! Shut up now. *NM* - 06/09/2010 01:00:49 AM 700 Views
OMG - 06/09/2010 11:48:48 AM 1090 Views
I know, appalling, right? - 09/09/2010 07:27:40 AM 995 Views
Re: I know, appalling, right? - 09/09/2010 07:41:02 AM 1029 Views
He doesn't think so, why should we? - 09/09/2010 03:40:25 PM 923 Views
Because he can't lose - 09/09/2010 05:21:50 PM 950 Views
I think Rand has far better odds of dying than Egwene. - 09/09/2010 05:56:07 PM 977 Views
very nicely done - 05/09/2010 11:06:24 PM 928 Views
Re: very nicely done - 06/09/2010 04:28:29 AM 987 Views
- 06/09/2010 11:49:20 AM 905 Views
Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 12:57:35 AM 1364 Views
the humor here is that you think you understand accurracy, improvement, characterization or humor! *NM* - 06/09/2010 01:56:57 AM 557 Views
I'm having to settle for being right. Better than being president... *NM* - 06/09/2010 03:47:52 AM 652 Views
I'm trying to resist the urge to make a Bush joke. *NM* - 06/09/2010 08:21:15 AM 590 Views
Why resist ... he WAS a joke! *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:31:06 PM 591 Views
BWAHAHAHAHA ... thanks to our last president you are right! *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:30:00 PM 581 Views
Re: Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 11:51:12 AM 1112 Views
seriously. - 06/09/2010 05:12:08 PM 1065 Views
If a few score Yellows can't handle the disease issue, what point to the Aes Sedai at all? - 06/09/2010 10:17:44 PM 1174 Views
Re: If a few score Yellows can't handle the disease issue, what point to the Aes Sedai at all? - 08/09/2010 08:30:35 AM 937 Views
Like Egwene understands the health implications! It's all about the aesthetics for her. - 09/09/2010 12:35:57 AM 1043 Views
Well, she was an apprentice wisdom with Nynaeve for a while - 09/09/2010 05:33:25 AM 974 Views
An idiot would understand the implications - 09/09/2010 07:38:57 AM 955 Views
and it's not just Egwene! - 11/09/2010 02:11:16 PM 871 Views
Cannoli's just got huge blinders... - 11/09/2010 04:59:50 PM 1086 Views
You forgot one very important point - 11/09/2010 06:44:32 PM 1023 Views
As to that... - 11/09/2010 08:47:26 PM 808 Views
after dealing with his bushwa waaay longer than you, I'm content to ignore him *NM* - 11/09/2010 11:29:27 PM 584 Views
Remember the old times? - 12/09/2010 03:35:43 AM 988 Views
I think we could use - 12/09/2010 10:40:47 AM 947 Views
ugh ... please don't ask for that! - 12/09/2010 02:25:32 PM 922 Views
Huh. Now that I think of it... - 14/09/2010 06:51:59 AM 887 Views
all of you are most correct! - 11/09/2010 07:53:44 PM 937 Views
When exactly have I ever given someone else a pass for "necessary actions" I blamed Egwene for? - 14/09/2010 02:08:29 AM 1143 Views
A few days back... - 14/09/2010 04:03:41 AM 1028 Views
Yes, those are completely different scenarios. - 14/09/2010 05:36:30 AM 1451 Views
Misinterpretations... - 14/09/2010 07:26:11 AM 889 Views
How can you claim Verin merely "helped" Egwene? - 15/09/2010 06:35:47 AM 1328 Views
Re: Cannoli's just got huge blinders... - 17/09/2010 06:42:39 AM 1193 Views
Read his replies in this thread... - 17/09/2010 06:48:20 AM 1019 Views
So your defense of Egwene is to refute her accusation against her rival? - 14/09/2010 02:12:22 AM 1010 Views
Double Post. See below. *NM* - 14/09/2010 04:03:55 AM 582 Views
How was Egwene to know Elaida made a half-hearted attempt? - 14/09/2010 04:06:15 AM 909 Views
Re: How was Egwene to know Elaida made a half-hearted attempt? - 14/09/2010 06:58:17 AM 961 Views
I give up. - 14/09/2010 07:44:57 AM 1065 Views
lol *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:46:23 PM 525 Views
I laughed very hard at this part: - 09/09/2010 07:48:34 PM 918 Views
Somehow I think of the lyrics from "Defying Gravity", which aren't quite one line - 07/09/2010 04:07:09 PM 992 Views
Look at it these ways - 08/09/2010 02:47:46 AM 1059 Views
People are taking this way too seriously. - 08/09/2010 06:33:28 AM 1007 Views
no argument there! *NM* - 09/09/2010 05:08:25 AM 314 Views
Re: Look at it these ways - 09/09/2010 07:26:37 AM 905 Views
It really comes down to the direction RJ went with his personality - 09/09/2010 03:08:36 PM 845 Views
This post was funny. Your responders are largely idiots who need a sense of humor. *NM* - 08/09/2010 03:56:07 AM 698 Views
I really hate self-fulfilling prophecy. *NM* - 08/09/2010 06:34:45 AM 662 Views
Hee. <3 *NM* - 09/09/2010 10:14:55 PM 586 Views
Re: Rand vs Egwene... one-line scenarios - 10/09/2010 06:28:50 AM 806 Views

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