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its a joke, shhhh *NM* Yunalesca Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 10:36:28 PM
Rand's scenario is this: He is the sole person who can save the world, and the absolute best he can hope for is to die in the process. He has the voice of a LTT, the Kinslayer, in his head, he channeled a tainted Saidin out of necessity for ages, he's had everything and everyone he loves taken from him, turned against him, or in the worst, been forced to act against those he loves (his actions towards the Two Rivers and especially Min). Oh, and he was stabbed by Fain's blade. We know how corrupting his voice is (look at Elaida) so imagine what that wound is doing? Not to mention Ishmael's wound.

Oh, and then there's fun little experiences like losing a hand to a fireball, being shown that your mother, who you never even met, is being personally held and tortured by the Dark One himself, being kept inside a box for a month and being let out only to be beaten (or worse - to helplessly watch your loved one being beaten)...

Honestly, it's a miracle that Rand didn't just destroy the world. He has flaws, true, but in his case the majority of his bad judgments can be attributed to the way life has shaped him.

Egwene on the flip side, has been pampered by the author. All of her bad judgments are excused or ignored because of the way the books are written (for example, why not keep at least SOME of the BA prisoner? Still them first to be safe, but don't miss out on the information they hold!). While I liked Egwene well enough in KoD, I think TGS played her into the martyr role a little to easily for me take it seriously. She hasn't actually experienced any mental hardships that I can think of beyond the physical treatment she received, and that pales against what Rand got.
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Rand vs Egwene... one-line scenarios - 05/09/2010 05:21:08 PM 2740 Views
loled at every one *NM* - 05/09/2010 05:35:03 PM 656 Views
Good for some sunday night relief I hope *NM* - 05/09/2010 09:51:10 PM 597 Views
Hmm... I don't think you want to read the rebuttal to that *NM* - 05/09/2010 06:07:16 PM 813 Views
True - 05/09/2010 09:52:09 PM 1117 Views
But you've already read my post *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:53:58 PM 676 Views
I only used one eye *NM* - 06/09/2010 11:52:19 AM 569 Views
Still counts *NM* - 06/09/2010 03:06:44 PM 598 Views
*NM* - 06/09/2010 01:02:44 AM 558 Views
Corrected for the sake of accuracy . - 05/09/2010 06:51:58 PM 1192 Views
Nonsense... - 05/09/2010 09:56:41 PM 995 Views
Gotta love Dark Templar - 05/09/2010 10:14:00 PM 1092 Views
That's partly why I didn't post a reply poking at her. *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:56:15 PM 673 Views
Poking whom? - 06/09/2010 01:20:32 AM 1039 Views
Egwene. I thought that was implied *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:03:25 AM 591 Views
Nice. *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:37:38 PM 589 Views
nice *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:12:31 PM 539 Views
*drumroll* *NM* - 05/09/2010 09:56:54 PM 626 Views
That whole post is stupid, you can't compare Rand's ordeal to Egwene's. - 05/09/2010 10:14:43 PM 1153 Views
its a joke, shhhh *NM* - 05/09/2010 10:36:28 PM 781 Views
No, it's clever and tongue-in-cheek. *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:04:26 PM 607 Views
OMG - 06/09/2010 11:48:48 AM 1093 Views
I know, appalling, right? - 09/09/2010 07:27:40 AM 1001 Views
Re: I know, appalling, right? - 09/09/2010 07:41:02 AM 1036 Views
He doesn't think so, why should we? - 09/09/2010 03:40:25 PM 928 Views
Because he can't lose - 09/09/2010 05:21:50 PM 956 Views
I think Rand has far better odds of dying than Egwene. - 09/09/2010 05:56:07 PM 983 Views
very nicely done - 05/09/2010 11:06:24 PM 931 Views
Re: very nicely done - 06/09/2010 04:28:29 AM 989 Views
- 06/09/2010 11:49:20 AM 910 Views
Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 12:57:35 AM 1367 Views
the humor here is that you think you understand accurracy, improvement, characterization or humor! *NM* - 06/09/2010 01:56:57 AM 558 Views
I'm having to settle for being right. Better than being president... *NM* - 06/09/2010 03:47:52 AM 653 Views
I'm trying to resist the urge to make a Bush joke. *NM* - 06/09/2010 08:21:15 AM 592 Views
Why resist ... he WAS a joke! *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:31:06 PM 593 Views
BWAHAHAHAHA ... thanks to our last president you are right! *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:30:00 PM 583 Views
Re: Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 11:51:12 AM 1118 Views
seriously. - 06/09/2010 05:12:08 PM 1071 Views
If a few score Yellows can't handle the disease issue, what point to the Aes Sedai at all? - 06/09/2010 10:17:44 PM 1180 Views
Re: If a few score Yellows can't handle the disease issue, what point to the Aes Sedai at all? - 08/09/2010 08:30:35 AM 943 Views
Like Egwene understands the health implications! It's all about the aesthetics for her. - 09/09/2010 12:35:57 AM 1049 Views
Well, she was an apprentice wisdom with Nynaeve for a while - 09/09/2010 05:33:25 AM 980 Views
An idiot would understand the implications - 09/09/2010 07:38:57 AM 960 Views
and it's not just Egwene! - 11/09/2010 02:11:16 PM 877 Views
Cannoli's just got huge blinders... - 11/09/2010 04:59:50 PM 1091 Views
You forgot one very important point - 11/09/2010 06:44:32 PM 1029 Views
As to that... - 11/09/2010 08:47:26 PM 813 Views
after dealing with his bushwa waaay longer than you, I'm content to ignore him *NM* - 11/09/2010 11:29:27 PM 585 Views
Remember the old times? - 12/09/2010 03:35:43 AM 993 Views
I think we could use - 12/09/2010 10:40:47 AM 953 Views
ugh ... please don't ask for that! - 12/09/2010 02:25:32 PM 928 Views
Huh. Now that I think of it... - 14/09/2010 06:51:59 AM 893 Views
all of you are most correct! - 11/09/2010 07:53:44 PM 943 Views
When exactly have I ever given someone else a pass for "necessary actions" I blamed Egwene for? - 14/09/2010 02:08:29 AM 1149 Views
A few days back... - 14/09/2010 04:03:41 AM 1034 Views
Yes, those are completely different scenarios. - 14/09/2010 05:36:30 AM 1457 Views
Misinterpretations... - 14/09/2010 07:26:11 AM 896 Views
How can you claim Verin merely "helped" Egwene? - 15/09/2010 06:35:47 AM 1334 Views
Re: Cannoli's just got huge blinders... - 17/09/2010 06:42:39 AM 1198 Views
Read his replies in this thread... - 17/09/2010 06:48:20 AM 1024 Views
So your defense of Egwene is to refute her accusation against her rival? - 14/09/2010 02:12:22 AM 1014 Views
Double Post. See below. *NM* - 14/09/2010 04:03:55 AM 585 Views
How was Egwene to know Elaida made a half-hearted attempt? - 14/09/2010 04:06:15 AM 914 Views
Re: How was Egwene to know Elaida made a half-hearted attempt? - 14/09/2010 06:58:17 AM 967 Views
I give up. - 14/09/2010 07:44:57 AM 1072 Views
lol *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:46:23 PM 526 Views
I laughed very hard at this part: - 09/09/2010 07:48:34 PM 923 Views
Somehow I think of the lyrics from "Defying Gravity", which aren't quite one line - 07/09/2010 04:07:09 PM 997 Views
Look at it these ways - 08/09/2010 02:47:46 AM 1064 Views
People are taking this way too seriously. - 08/09/2010 06:33:28 AM 1013 Views
no argument there! *NM* - 09/09/2010 05:08:25 AM 316 Views
Re: Look at it these ways - 09/09/2010 07:26:37 AM 911 Views
It really comes down to the direction RJ went with his personality - 09/09/2010 03:08:36 PM 850 Views
This post was funny. Your responders are largely idiots who need a sense of humor. *NM* - 08/09/2010 03:56:07 AM 699 Views
I really hate self-fulfilling prophecy. *NM* - 08/09/2010 06:34:45 AM 664 Views
Hee. <3 *NM* - 09/09/2010 10:14:55 PM 587 Views
Re: Rand vs Egwene... one-line scenarios - 10/09/2010 06:28:50 AM 812 Views

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