Active Users:723 Time:05/11/2024 11:45:16 PM
2 things to debunk Demandred = Taim darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 04/09/2010 01:17:36 AM
Any thoughts on this mysterious Forsaken?


I have always believed Demandred to be Taim. There are a few reasons for this, though I do not have the books in front of me to quote from I shall paraphrase as best as possible. In LoC we get our first real glimpse of Dem from his point of view, when he is visiting the Bore. Shortly thereafter we see him discussing events with graendal and (crap i forgot). We never learn what was said to Dem by the 'Great Lord' and I believe this to be intentional. In chapter 6 when first meeting with Rand as Mazrim Taim, Bashere, who has fought Taim numerous times and knows his manurisms and ways better than most, is at first skeptical that this is Taim. Though Taim makes light of that fact saying that he shaved due to the heat, I always got the impression that Bashere recognized the physical Taim, otherwise why all the anger, but did not think that Taim was acting as himself, whether from the way he walked or the way he was talking.

My next point comes at the end of the book LoC I believe, though I'm not possitive on this one, where Taim is seated on his thrown in the BT and states 'as the old saying goes ''let the lord of chaos rule'' This message was only given to Demandred, and if Taim were a new dreadlord, Demandred would certainly keep as much information from him as possible and only pass on orders.

Anyway, first post, I know I could fill out this theory with more speculation and quotes with time, but as I stated I do not have the books in front of me.


1. At the Cleansing Demandred fought Damer Flinn and did not recognize the man as an Asha'man ... and since Taim is the one who tested Flinn for the ability that makes it obvious

2. The author told us that as of KOD Taim's alter ego has not been seen "on screen" ... obviously Taim has had screen time.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Reply to message
Character discussion 12 : Demandred - 12/08/2010 06:49:26 PM 1737 Views
I'm prepared to be disappointed. - 12/08/2010 07:36:35 PM 1039 Views
Well said. *NM* - 13/08/2010 02:23:05 PM 343 Views
Re: I'm prepared to be disappointed. - 17/08/2010 02:27:16 AM 808 Views
Re: I'm prepared to be disappointed. - 18/08/2010 07:07:44 AM 793 Views
A wasted character - 12/08/2010 07:41:13 PM 987 Views
Mordred connection - 13/08/2010 06:13:22 AM 1047 Views
I like your description. The hoes part. *NM* - 13/08/2010 09:33:41 AM 360 Views
Disappointment abounds - 13/08/2010 05:02:39 PM 1054 Views
With the Sea Folk - 14/08/2010 05:50:44 AM 994 Views
I think he's going to be exactly what we've been told - 14/08/2010 02:49:30 PM 882 Views
Re: I think he's going to be exactly what we've been told - 15/08/2010 09:43:59 PM 820 Views
Also possible, but since we know we've not seen his alter ego on screen - 17/08/2010 12:02:33 AM 856 Views
If he's supposed to do something surprising - 18/08/2010 04:04:58 PM 905 Views
Yes *NM* - 19/08/2010 03:58:46 AM 327 Views
I think Demandred is totally b to the aller baller - 25/08/2010 08:17:24 PM 807 Views
TGS really threw me for a loop, honestly - 26/08/2010 06:19:10 AM 859 Views
Shara would actually be a respectable holding - 26/08/2010 06:33:15 AM 779 Views
I'm still betting on the Sea Folk - 05/09/2010 01:26:48 AM 650 Views
I think Demandred has eliminated that possibilty from his comments in TGS - 05/09/2010 03:27:43 PM 676 Views
Re: Character discussion 12 : Demandred - 04/09/2010 12:14:57 AM 812 Views
2 things to debunk Demandred = Taim - 04/09/2010 01:17:36 AM 718 Views
Can we just have an Announcement that Demandred =/= Taim? *NM* - 05/09/2010 06:15:00 PM 633 Views
DEMANDRED IS NOT TAIM!! That work? *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:02:15 AM 323 Views

Reply to Message