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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
A weave that might be useful in one context might not be useful in another. Variations of Healing without a Talent for Healing, for example, makes the weave worthless to another channeler.

I think we could also look at the ritualistic practices surrounding the Test for the Shawl. It seems that most of the initiates learn the more useful weaves during their Accepted period of learning. Yet many of the weaves they have to learn to pass the Test are said to be "useless" or of a limited value. It is possible that some of these worthless weaves, in another context and given the right situation, are useful. Perhaps one of the weaves they are taught was the sonar-creating one used by the Wise Ones - but since no pregnant woman is nearby to test it on, it doesn't do anything. Also likely, is that those weaves might be variations or weakened versions of older weaves - when Sorilea showed Cadsuane the Travelling weave, for example, it was so flimsy and weak that it collapsed before it could create an effect. It could be the case that a similarly weak channeler, trying to pass this weave on to a younger person or student, could only roughly duplicate the matrix needed, in which case the younger student has a weave that doesn't seem to work, and which they don't have the technique to use. The chances of that weave being passed on become very low compared to a fireball or basic healing matrix of flows.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1704 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1070 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 965 Views
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Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 513 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1040 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 859 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 994 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1335 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 837 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 749 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 852 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 762 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 863 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 804 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 760 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 809 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 968 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 786 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 352 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 935 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 720 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 801 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 799 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 848 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1036 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 389 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 803 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 396 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 814 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 861 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 455 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 807 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1137 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 774 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 369 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 947 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 904 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1142 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 877 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 813 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 771 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 961 Views

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