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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
A weave that might be useful in one context might not be useful in another. Variations of Healing without a Talent for Healing, for example, makes the weave worthless to another channeler.

I think we could also look at the ritualistic practices surrounding the Test for the Shawl. It seems that most of the initiates learn the more useful weaves during their Accepted period of learning. Yet many of the weaves they have to learn to pass the Test are said to be "useless" or of a limited value. It is possible that some of these worthless weaves, in another context and given the right situation, are useful. Perhaps one of the weaves they are taught was the sonar-creating one used by the Wise Ones - but since no pregnant woman is nearby to test it on, it doesn't do anything. Also likely, is that those weaves might be variations or weakened versions of older weaves - when Sorilea showed Cadsuane the Travelling weave, for example, it was so flimsy and weak that it collapsed before it could create an effect. It could be the case that a similarly weak channeler, trying to pass this weave on to a younger person or student, could only roughly duplicate the matrix needed, in which case the younger student has a weave that doesn't seem to work, and which they don't have the technique to use. The chances of that weave being passed on become very low compared to a fireball or basic healing matrix of flows.
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Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1102 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1000 Views
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Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 528 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1072 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 895 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1024 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1370 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 865 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 793 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 885 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 795 Views
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They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 797 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 844 Views
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Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 821 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 368 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 968 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 756 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 836 Views
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How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 883 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1051 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 406 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 835 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 413 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 851 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 893 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 469 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 837 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1170 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 806 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 384 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 982 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 938 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1182 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 905 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 846 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 805 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 993 Views

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