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I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM
What I think happened is, just as with Egwene figuring out how to create the Skimming effect by applying theoretical principles of saidar to Moghedien's suggestions, Moiraine might have read or heard about the properties of balefire and reasoned out that accomplishing such a feat might require all five flows and then dangerous guesswork as to how it might look and work.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1625 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 997 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 898 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 999 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 745 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 758 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 815 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 966 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 485 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 961 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 793 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 919 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1262 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 753 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 679 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 773 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 687 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 838 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 785 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 729 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 691 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 799 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 730 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 889 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 716 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 326 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 829 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 857 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 648 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 723 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 721 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 769 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1009 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 360 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 709 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 365 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 741 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 782 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 425 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 731 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1059 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 699 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 346 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 864 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 826 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1066 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 826 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 737 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 724 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 884 Views
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