Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw...
Phelix Send a noteboard - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM
Is that the women who formed the WT were not fully trained Aes Sedai, especially not to the levels expected in the AoL.
These women were a remnant. They came together trying to survive, teaching each other and learning together, claiming the title of their former teachers/masters. None of these women would have been taught balefire.
This was the end of the war, balefire itself had been forbidden by both sides of the war. Even the shadow stopped using it.
Traveling could easily have been lost simply because the people far enough along in their training died, either in the war or in the breaking. The WT wasn't founded for centuries after the breaking was over.
Also, remember that the women who formed the Tower actively forced women to join their organization, and if they refused the "rebels" were stilled and executed. So, any woman who thought she didn't want to join a bunch of half-trained girls would have been forced to join or be killed.
These women were a remnant. They came together trying to survive, teaching each other and learning together, claiming the title of their former teachers/masters. None of these women would have been taught balefire.
This was the end of the war, balefire itself had been forbidden by both sides of the war. Even the shadow stopped using it.
Traveling could easily have been lost simply because the people far enough along in their training died, either in the war or in the breaking. The WT wasn't founded for centuries after the breaking was over.
Also, remember that the women who formed the Tower actively forced women to join their organization, and if they refused the "rebels" were stilled and executed. So, any woman who thought she didn't want to join a bunch of half-trained girls would have been forced to join or be killed.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ?
20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM
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You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves
20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM
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Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering
20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM
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These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers
20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM
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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly...
20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
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Lost Weaves
20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM
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Not logical
20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM
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Re: Not logical
20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM
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All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking..
20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM
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If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle
20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM
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I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge.
20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM
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You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense
20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM
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Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property
20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM
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Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM*
20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM
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If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the
21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM
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Idea?
21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM
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But they weren't too weak
21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM
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That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers.
21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM
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How can you "write a weave down"?
21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM
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How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM*
21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM
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figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM*
21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM
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That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP...
21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM
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OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM*
21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM
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I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM
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Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM
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We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC
25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM
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Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw...
21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM
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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking
25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
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