That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP...
DomA Send a noteboard - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM
There's not a hint she thinks outside the WT box on this matter, and developped any proclivity to "figure out" new weaves.
That came only with the wondergirls and the barebone AS training that didn't suffice to brainwash them and burn in their brains the notion that one must never attempt to experiment anything with the OP.
Nynaeve "intuitive" knowledge of balefire is however "magical" (Nynaeve's intuitive talent is mostly if not strictly resricted to her main Talent area, much like Elayne). It actually came from her Accepted test, in which she just knew balefire - and anything weave she sees once, she can make again. She forgot it - repressed the memory that is - blocked it, then she intuitively remembered it later. There were a few scenes where Nynaeve had weird feelings about balefire, before the memory came back to her, much like she forgot her fears to embrace saidar when she's angry.
That came only with the wondergirls and the barebone AS training that didn't suffice to brainwash them and burn in their brains the notion that one must never attempt to experiment anything with the OP.
Nynaeve "intuitive" knowledge of balefire is however "magical" (Nynaeve's intuitive talent is mostly if not strictly resricted to her main Talent area, much like Elayne). It actually came from her Accepted test, in which she just knew balefire - and anything weave she sees once, she can make again. She forgot it - repressed the memory that is - blocked it, then she intuitively remembered it later. There were a few scenes where Nynaeve had weird feelings about balefire, before the memory came back to her, much like she forgot her fears to embrace saidar when she's angry.
How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ?
20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM
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You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves
20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM
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Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering
20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM
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These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers
20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM
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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly...
20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
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Lost Weaves
20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM
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Not logical
20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM
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Re: Not logical
20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM
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All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking..
20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM
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If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle
20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM
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I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge.
20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM
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You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense
20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM
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Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property
20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM
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Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM*
20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM
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If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the
21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM
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Idea?
21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM
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But they weren't too weak
21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM
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That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers.
21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM
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How can you "write a weave down"?
21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM
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How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM*
21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM
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figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM*
21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM
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That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP...
21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM
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OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM*
21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM
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I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM
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Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM
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We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC
25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM
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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking
25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
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