It's a fictional story about a place that never existed where people use magic. RJ didn't have to give us the 'rules' that he did about how his system works, but I suppose it was important to him to sketch a general outline for folks. Now people want to test his work against rigorous rules of scientific and logical reasoning? As if it HAS to make perfect sense or something to be any good?
I think what he gave us is plenty enough of explanation. Society was fragmented, channelers even more so. There was literally a THOUSAND years of everybody doing anything they could to survive until the next day! It didn't leave a lot of time for school. I find it completely believable that all sorts of knowledge would be lost during that time.
There is virtually nothing left from the Age of Legends, nothing. No books, no machines, no government. Only scraps and bits of information were ever found. Oral history was the only means of passing information on to later generations, and that was sketchy at best as we've seen. Not a single book was ever found in its entirety, only pieces of manuscripts and parts of pages. Even if there were entire libraries filled with nothing but books about the Power and various weaves, none would have survived any better than any other library. And considering that we've been given glimpses of the AoL which show that books were probably stored in some way similar to what we would call 'electronically' (re: Ebou Dar ter'angreal cache), the mechanism to reach this information would be lost.
I have no problem with this aspect of the story at all. It wouldn't have been the same story otherwise, and I'm very happy with it the way it is now.
I think what he gave us is plenty enough of explanation. Society was fragmented, channelers even more so. There was literally a THOUSAND years of everybody doing anything they could to survive until the next day! It didn't leave a lot of time for school. I find it completely believable that all sorts of knowledge would be lost during that time.
There is virtually nothing left from the Age of Legends, nothing. No books, no machines, no government. Only scraps and bits of information were ever found. Oral history was the only means of passing information on to later generations, and that was sketchy at best as we've seen. Not a single book was ever found in its entirety, only pieces of manuscripts and parts of pages. Even if there were entire libraries filled with nothing but books about the Power and various weaves, none would have survived any better than any other library. And considering that we've been given glimpses of the AoL which show that books were probably stored in some way similar to what we would call 'electronically' (re: Ebou Dar ter'angreal cache), the mechanism to reach this information would be lost.
I have no problem with this aspect of the story at all. It wouldn't have been the same story otherwise, and I'm very happy with it the way it is now.
Scooter
Slave to Detail...Damned Purist
Slave to Detail...Damned Purist
How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ?
- 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM
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You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves
- 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM
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Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering
- 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM
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These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers
- 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM
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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly...
- 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
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Lost Weaves
- 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM
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Not logical
- 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM
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Re: Not logical
- 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM
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All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking..
- 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM
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If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle
- 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM
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I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge.
- 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM
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You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense
- 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM
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Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property
- 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM
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Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM*
- 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM
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If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the
- 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM
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It doesn't have to be logical...
- 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM
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Idea?
- 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM
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But they weren't too weak
- 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM
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That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers.
- 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM
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How can you "write a weave down"?
- 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM
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How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM*
- 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM
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figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM*
- 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM
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That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP...
- 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM
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OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM*
- 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM
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I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
- 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM
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Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
- 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM
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We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC
- 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM
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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking
- 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
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