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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
Whether it's Nynaeve, Egwene, or Rand, these folks seem super-gifted and precocious. In the case of Rand, he's got an unfair advantage with his special AoL knowledge.
Still, the ease of acquiring this knowledge is a bit excessive...


Like Blossoms of Fire and Deathgates used by the Ashaman at the Manor, and Alviarin learning Traveling so easily.

These aren't gifted channelers. Some of them are not even average.

How do you lose a weave if it just takes a second's glance at the flows to learn how to copy it.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2066 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1341 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1222 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1331 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 1054 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1095 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1136 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1357 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 655 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1332 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1121 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1270 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1611 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1097 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 1009 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1098 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 1016 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1186 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1173 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1067 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1036 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1131 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1097 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1247 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1043 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 488 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1167 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1187 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 972 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1085 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1168 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1154 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1173 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 524 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1052 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 524 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1095 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1123 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 578 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1072 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1411 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1044 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 497 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1325 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1192 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1463 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1134 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1087 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1052 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1237 Views
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