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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
Whether it's Nynaeve, Egwene, or Rand, these folks seem super-gifted and precocious. In the case of Rand, he's got an unfair advantage with his special AoL knowledge.
Still, the ease of acquiring this knowledge is a bit excessive...


Like Blossoms of Fire and Deathgates used by the Ashaman at the Manor, and Alviarin learning Traveling so easily.

These aren't gifted channelers. Some of them are not even average.

How do you lose a weave if it just takes a second's glance at the flows to learn how to copy it.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1872 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1192 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1084 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1197 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 921 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 965 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 993 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1200 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 578 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1177 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 982 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1129 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1454 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 946 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 881 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 962 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 880 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1038 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 998 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 923 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 886 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 984 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 946 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1096 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 894 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 416 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1035 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1051 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 831 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 934 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1027 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1006 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1102 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 452 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 913 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 453 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 955 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 968 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 512 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 928 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1264 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 900 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 432 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1095 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1035 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1298 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 986 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 924 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 897 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1078 Views
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