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The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM
with a slight alteration...

It is true that while the strongest were the only ones able to use the weaves on a regular basis, i'm sure that they were all taught the weaves in OP School. Just like Soriela knows the weave for traveling but isn't able to do it.

Eventually the Strongest did die off, and all that was left were those that weren't able to produce the weaves. But they still knew them of course and when they were able to find those that could (whether to be trained or those that could already) they could pass it on. As mentioned above, Ishmael likely had a hand in it by hunting down those that were strong enough to learn.

Eventually though, generation to generation, while still knowing, can't use it. And if you don't use it, you lose it.

Think about HS math. Unless you still use it (still going to college or use math on a regular basis) can you tell me how to figure out a sine, cosine, tangent of a triangle by hand? or the Pythagorean theorem? Or HS Spanish? sure, you could probably figure it out eventually, but if you don't use it, you do lose it. So it is likely that over time, those that couldn't make it work to just let it slide.

In the Rhuidean Columns, it was shown that the AS that came to take things from the Tinker wagons was on the edge of sanity due to being forced into Survivalist Mode for a long time and in that mode, you don't hang on to those things that are useless to your survival.

Also, you may say that "well I remember those things and I could pass them off" but not everyone is an effective teacher. Could you truly teach others well? Could they? and those that they teach? And with those unable to teach effectively, new channelers couldn't be brought to their full potential as well. Granted, the "no strong enough" channelers is a plot device but it is a valid theory.
This message last edited by lodlom on 20/08/2010 at 06:54:41 PM
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1710 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1073 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 971 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1048 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 516 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1044 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 862 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 996 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1339 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 840 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 753 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 853 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 765 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 866 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 807 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 766 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 812 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 972 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 791 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 352 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 938 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 723 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 805 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 823 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 849 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1037 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 389 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 807 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 397 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 817 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 864 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 456 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 809 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1140 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 777 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 371 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 954 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 909 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1146 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 879 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 817 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 774 Views

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