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Not logical Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM
There is a reason that some of those weaves were lost. It was discussed a lot on wotmania and here.

Traveling: The most logic reason was that for so many years during the Breaking, the landscape changed so much and so often that it eventually became very risky and dangerous to travel. Same applies for Skimming. If you think you know a place and open a Gateway, you might end up in the ocean or on a volcano instead of the place you thought it would be. Why was the weave forgotten? Eventually, most Aes Sedai, the more stronger and knowledgeable died, and with lack of a central organization resulted in fragmentation of the information. People were more and more isolated and didn't share the information.

Cuendillar: I guess the need for it became unimportant and eventually it just became less and less utilized so people forgot it existed. The perpetual decrease of strong Chanelers and maybe a loss of Talent in Earth resulted in Cuendillar being lost.

Balefire: Was forgotten by most but still known. I mean, Moirane figured it out and used it on 2-3 occasions. If Moirane who is a good Chaneler but not the greatest could figure it out, maybe from a book or from someone, it must not be that difficult for top people like Egwene, Nynaeve or others.

Angreal: Maybe they need some special tools, Ter'Angral that needs to be utilized to create them. This is one of the lost Talents I understand more why it was lost.

There was also a reason for RJ to have those lost. Imagine plot wise what it would of been if everybody had access to Travel and all those weaves. In a series where lack of comunication is one of the main aspect, it would of changed the feeling of the series too much. It would also depreciate the main protagonists accomplishments.


If you can make a gateway to another planet - which is spinning in an orbit around another star and is therefore a constantly moving point compared to your point of reference, and which may be a gas giant or a boiling inferno like Mercury or Venus, then Travelling to an unstable landscape on the same continent is hardly a challenge.

To Travel, you need to know your point of departure in any case, not your destination.
This message last edited by Shannow on 20/08/2010 at 02:03:40 PM
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1923 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1249 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1130 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1245 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 596 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1233 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1031 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1175 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1500 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 998 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 925 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1003 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 927 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1053 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 982 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 942 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1001 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1143 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 942 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 435 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1095 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 874 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 982 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1070 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1057 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1121 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 471 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 954 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 472 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1005 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1011 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 527 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 973 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1311 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 942 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 450 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1171 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1086 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1355 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1031 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 972 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 946 Views

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