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It sounds a bit early for Lan's death DomA Send a noteboard - 28/07/2010 12:25:47 AM
If Lan dies, it would probably fit better during the LB, but not right off the bat (that doesn't sound later enough for him to have any sort of involvement with Isam, notably - which it's solidly implied will be involved with Perrin in TOM). Lan and Isam having no face off (not necessarily in battle, though possibly) of any kind before the end sounds pretty much like Morgase and Galad not meeting, Moiraine and Thom never reunited etc. to me.

It sounds possible, perhaps even likely, that it's Perrin/Faile and the Bordermen who will go to reinforce Lan, and that sounds very unlikely to happen in TOM, when Perrin rather will go to the big "reunion" at the end of the book.

My theory remains also that the most beautiful "full circle" for Moiraine would be for her to pay back Lan's loyalty, and the fact he's put his personal war on hold to be at her side and help her with her personal mission for 20 years, by telling Rand at the end of TOM that she and AS volunteers are going to join Lan. That would also repay the fact the AS failed Malkier decades ago. Moiraine's return to second Lan in his war would mean a great deal to Lan, and it might resolve the Nynaeve-Moirain thread too, if Moiraine tells Nynaeve: "I know your duty is to remain with Rand though you'd rather be with Lan. I see your sacrifice, and perhaps you understand all those I made too. I will go to help Lan for you - we have both worked to hard to keep him alive to let him die alone now. I'll bring him as many sisters as I can gather. Stay with Rand, it's you he needs now, not me. I would have liked to be at his side at the end, but it's Lan who needs me." I think Rand's refusal to send help to Lan in TGS is possibly in part because the people meant to reinforce Lan's army aren't "ready" to go, like Faile, possibly Perrin (not convinced he won't be forced to let Faile go fight elsewhere while he does something else), and Moiraine (perhaps Loial and the Ogier, too - my hunch is that there might be more than one "big reunion", ie: the cast not reunited around Rand/Egwene/Mat/Perrin/Elayne might reunite in Shienar instead, people like Moiraine, Lan, Loial.).

I somewhat expect Lan to die in the LB (I'm undecided about Moiraine, but somewhat I find her death at least as likely as Cadsuane's, say), but I don't really expect RJ would get rid of Lan right at the start. He would have wanted to milk Lan's war for all its worth first, and I'll be disappointed if the Borderlands rulers never get to see a bit the "Uncrowned King" in action, leading the army they should have lead. I don't think Lan will die (if he does, but there's instances of potential foreshadowing that Nynaeve might become a widow) until Perrin's ready to take over from him in the Borderlands - mid LB stuff, so first half of AMOL would be my guess.

This message last edited by DomA on 28/07/2010 at 12:32:13 AM
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tGS: Chapter 81 comment from BS (*spoilers*?) - 27/07/2010 03:57:34 AM 1981 Views
Yeah, I saw that. - 27/07/2010 04:03:34 AM 1097 Views
Well I don't think it was too big of a scene or RJ would have written it I think. - 27/07/2010 04:11:01 AM 948 Views
Re: Well I don't think it was too big of a scene or RJ would have written it I think. - 27/07/2010 05:17:22 AM 926 Views
Re: Well I don't think it was too big of a scene or RJ would have written it I think. - 27/07/2010 09:18:54 AM 808 Views
Yeah, BS said on Twitter... - 27/07/2010 09:47:41 AM 960 Views
Again! - 27/07/2010 11:41:33 PM 931 Views
Re: Yeah, I saw that. - 27/07/2010 05:28:53 AM 908 Views
Yeah, I wondered about that... - 27/07/2010 05:02:27 PM 777 Views
Re: Yeah, I wondered about that... - 28/07/2010 04:04:06 AM 713 Views
... and 94 chapters - 27/07/2010 04:04:51 AM 933 Views
Thats a lot of chapters *NM* - 27/07/2010 05:16:35 AM 369 Views
Ouch.... - 27/07/2010 05:48:13 AM 937 Views
BS twittered then, though... - 27/07/2010 08:15:06 AM 863 Views
Re: BS twittered then, though... - 27/07/2010 05:20:56 PM 769 Views
Re: BS twittered then, though... - 28/07/2010 12:01:26 AM 849 Views
Don't you mean aMoL: Ch 81? - 27/07/2010 08:38:30 PM 814 Views
The next book, Towers of Midnight, is meant. *NM* - 27/07/2010 10:24:43 PM 377 Views
Re: The next book, Towers of Midnight, is meant. - 27/07/2010 11:28:51 PM 766 Views
Now he said... - 28/07/2010 08:32:17 AM 880 Views
rock on *NM* - 27/07/2010 04:05:48 AM 353 Views
Hmm, Lan's death? - 27/07/2010 08:09:25 AM 841 Views
sure, why not. my only problem is... - 27/07/2010 08:58:06 AM 811 Views
I hope you are right. - 27/07/2010 09:19:44 AM 835 Views
I don't think he will die - 27/07/2010 11:07:27 AM 847 Views
I think if Lan dies... - 27/07/2010 09:45:05 AM 826 Views
I was thinking Cadsuane *NM* - 27/07/2010 10:46:26 AM 374 Views
Also possible, of course - 27/07/2010 10:58:34 AM 803 Views
I don't consider it foreshadowing - 27/07/2010 11:15:37 AM 725 Views
Hmm, I doubt it... - 27/07/2010 11:25:57 AM 746 Views
Re: Hmm, I doubt it... - 28/07/2010 12:47:33 AM 751 Views
Either Lan or Rand, I guess. *NM* - 28/07/2010 08:02:37 AM 356 Views
Or... - 31/07/2010 02:59:22 AM 715 Views
It sounds a bit early for Lan's death - 28/07/2010 12:25:47 AM 933 Views
Oh, I like this. - 28/07/2010 01:35:48 AM 782 Views
I do too. - 28/07/2010 01:43:12 PM 710 Views
Perhaps, too early, yes... - 28/07/2010 07:57:34 AM 729 Views
Re: It sounds a bit early for Lan's death - 28/07/2010 08:43:31 AM 731 Views
RJ/ Harriet should have picked you, Dom... - 28/07/2010 08:47:34 AM 741 Views
The death of Elayne? Or Min? - 27/07/2010 02:47:11 PM 826 Views
The problem with this idea is... - 27/07/2010 04:26:33 PM 777 Views
rand's fake death. from a POV that thinks he died for real *NM* - 27/07/2010 07:07:00 PM 386 Views
this is what i was just thinking *NM* - 27/07/2010 10:27:12 PM 339 Views
My bets are on Rand's actual death - 30/07/2010 07:40:06 AM 772 Views
Lan's death and Nynaeve's reaction would fit "heart-wrenching", Cadsuane's not so much for most *NM* - 29/07/2010 03:50:34 PM 330 Views
Certainly - 29/07/2010 05:34:11 PM 724 Views

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