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No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. Mik Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM
That there is no evidence to support this theory.
Then why can't you answer my simple questions?
I give valid answer, yet you are unwilling to accept them, while you have no answers of your own.

For starters, just answer these two right this time;
1: How did the Watcher -if he is Moridin as you say- see the link between Sammael & Grandael dissolve, while both held on to the Source?

2: How did the Watcher -if he is just a human male channeler called "Death"- know Sammael held the Source, when he was trailing him from pretty far off?

3: Why didn't Sammael and/ or Grandeal hear a single thing behind them, while they could read a news-paper at 30 feet and could hear a mouse sneeze?


As far as we know from the books and the authors, SH and Moridin are separate characters.
As I've shown you -directly- from the books, this is more then debatable. And in fact, untill you answer those questions above (for starters), it's even more likely that they are linked.

As for the author. How did RJ put it? He likes to watch you sqiurm. He likes to surprise you and then in hindsight, you can re-read it was always hidden in plain view all over the books.
I sat on my hands for years, keeping this to myself just so that if I was right, I wouldn't be spoiling it so soon. So close to the end, I figured I might as well speak up.


It's not clear at all, why this wouldn't work, or what would be the merit of having a physical Moridin/SH combo instead of Moridin and SH simply working together.
You think way too much of what Shai'tan is cabable off, on this side of Creation. Shai'tan is lord and master on the other side. And there, He's Lord of Nothing; Lord of ????.




Straight from wikipedia:
Chaos (Greek ???? khaos) refers to the formless or void state preceding the creation of the universe or cosmos in creation myths, particularly Greek but also in related religions of the Ancient Near East. The motif of chaoskampf (German for struggle against chaos) is ubiquitous in these myths, depicting a battle of a culture hero deity with a chaos monster, often in the shape of a serpent or dragon. He is known as the god of darkness.

Greek ???? means "gaping void, chasm, abyss", from the verb ????? "gape, be wide open, etc"
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
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No... - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 1029 Views
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Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!) - 23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM 956 Views
Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 1037 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 887 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1188 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 936 Views
Au contraire. - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 1042 Views
But why... - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 866 Views
Re: But why... - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 926 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 936 Views
I think it would have to work this way: - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 883 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 985 Views
Um not quite - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 842 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1081 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1108 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 801 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 904 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 900 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 847 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 910 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 768 Views
The problem is... - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 727 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 835 Views
I already answered all this... - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 847 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 950 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 789 Views
Agreed then. - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 942 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 875 Views
No problem - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 925 Views
Why does that scene matter? - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 828 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 442 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 997 Views
Just to understand you correctly... - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 844 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 914 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 878 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 777 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 730 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 946 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 821 Views
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True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 727 Views
One should also remember... - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 759 Views
Eh? - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 778 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 822 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 867 Views
I think... - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 671 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 915 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 797 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 727 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 965 Views
Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 803 Views
Re: Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 698 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 982 Views

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