Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..?
Mik Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM
Basically you interpret stuff like the name Ba'alzamon or the poistion of the Nae'blis in a clumsy way that it fits with your idea, though the more obvious interpretations are at least as likely. At the same time you ignore what is indicated in the PoV of SH and Moridin (contrary to Luc's/Isam's PoV, which immediately makes clear that both are one being) or what RJ/BS said, which implies that we have two separate characters, and believe those things were only said to fool us.
All in all, it's most unlikely that Moridin and SH are linked into a being like Slayer, and there is no real convincing evidence to support it, IMO.
All you do is take vague swings at my supporting points. Nowhere do you actually try to counter the harder arguments I raised.All in all, it's most unlikely that Moridin and SH are linked into a being like Slayer, and there is no real convincing evidence to support it, IMO.
1: Why did the killing of Carridins family stop for 2 months right after Ishamael died, while SHv0.5 made that promise and it was SHv0.5 that was carrying it out up untill that point? Note that this promise wasn't forgotten at all and that -in the end- Moridin ordered Carridin had to be killed according to SHv0.5's promise.
You think RJ just went out of his way to hide this in his books for kicks, eh?
- My answer: The killing stopped temporarily because Ishamael was linked to SHv0,5.
2: Explain to me how the Watcher could be Moridin when The Watcher "ghosted soundlesly through the trees", following two very experienced channelers holding the Source (thus having heightened senses) in a leafless forest at noon, littered with brown leaves where those two channelers stumble around to just to keep their balance. (ACoS - Patterns within Patterns)
- My answer: Humans always make noise for a channeler to pick up in situations like this. However, we know that Fades can move without producing any sound! (once or twice back in TEoTW, we see a Fade moving without making any sound)
3: Explain to me if the Watcher is Moridin how he noticed that(apparently from some distance) Sammy had let the link between himself and Granny dissolve? Note that the Watcher also knew that both Sammy and Granny still held on to the Source.
How could the Watcher -if it was Moridin- tell the difference?
- My answer: No human, be it male or female can see this link between a male and female channeler or see it disolve. We have direct proof from the books. (Nyneave in KoD, Demandred & Aran'gar in WH)
We do know Shaidar Haran can see & smell weaves. It was a Fade that saw the link dissolve and that saw that both Granny & Sammy still held on to the Source.
4: How could the Watcher tell Sammy held the Source in the first place, given the Watcher was following the deadly duo by Grandaels easy-to-follow shiny red dress (indicating a fairly big distance).
My answer: see answer 3.
Please give me your answers to these four easy questions and we'll talk about what you call 'pretty weak evidence' after you give a reply with some real content?
Thanks.
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'
Death dances in my footsteps....
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Moridin & Shadar Haran
22/07/2010 08:14:27 PM
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No...
22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM
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Re: No...
22/07/2010 09:31:35 PM
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Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory!
23/07/2010 03:41:00 AM
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Re: Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory!
27/07/2010 04:00:26 PM
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Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!)
23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM
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I haven't seen those answers either so I'm interested. I don't think they're the same
23/07/2010 08:49:11 AM
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Yup, I think they are one and the same.
23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM
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This idea is hardly vindicable
23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM
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Au contraire.
23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM
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But why...
23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM
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Again. RJ fooled you.
23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM
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I think it would have to work this way:
23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM
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Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think.
23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM
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Um not quite
25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM
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I think your evidence is pretty weak...
26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM
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Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..?
26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM
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Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..?
26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM
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Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..?
26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM
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Frankly, I don't see any similarity...
26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM
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Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity...
26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM
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The problem is...
26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM
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No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years.
27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM
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I already answered all this...
27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM
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Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong.
27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM
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Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are:
26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM
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No problem
26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM
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Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again..
26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM
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Just to understand you correctly...
26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM
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Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"?
27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM
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Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right
27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM
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I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing:
26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM
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Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing:
26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM
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One should also remember...
26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM
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Eh?
26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM
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But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM*
26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM
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Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart?
26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM
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