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Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. - Edit 1

Before modification by Mik at 25/07/2010 03:07:41 PM

The fact that apparently you aren't, saddens me in some strange way to be honest. I guess you could call it a deep respect for how a value your opinion on 'all-things-WoT'.
Even though your opinion puts a huge dent in my confidence, I still think I'm on the right track. So at the risk of making an ass out of myself... here goes;

First, let me adres the title of your post:
"Not the same individual"
Well. Wierd as it may sound, I tend to agree with that. And the reason is very simple. I don't think I'd dare call Slayer an 'individual' either. And since I'm advocating that the Nae'Blis is a '24/7-creature' bound together like the Slayer conncetion between Isam & Luc, I don't think you'd have to consider that creature to be 'an individual'.

As I posted before in this thread, like Slayer;
"both are".
The main differences with Slayer are that the one that 'did live' has a mind that can channel (Ishamael) and the one that 'did die' actually 'never was born' (A Fade/ Neverborn).

See, "both are", but never-ever "at the same Time".

Luc and Isam both seem to consider themselves as individuals in their PoV in WH. One decides to become the other one when it seems more appropriate. One likes killing wolves more then the other.
So I'm guessing my question to you would be, is if you consider to be Slayer an individual? Or do you consider Slayer to be two individuals meshed together that share eachothers memories?

Because if it's the latter, I hardly see your point as this being a reason for denying a link between Moridin & Shaidar Haran.
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Now the rest of your post:
We can even put that ideal to rest: SH brought Moghedien to a room in which Moridin was.
As wierd as this feels for me writing this, but that's just plain wrong. You have no proof that Moridin was in that room, prior to him commanding Moghedien to open her eyes.

And like I asked Etzel earlier, this begs the question as to why Moghedien had to close her eyes and was told to keep them shut until she 'was commanded to open them'. What wasn't Moghedien supposed to see those precious few seconds? And why -if they were seperate beings- did Moridin and Shaidar Haran have to agree on having her close her eyes? (Shaidar ordered her and Moridin told her 'she could open them
now', full-well knowing Moghedien was ordered to close her eyes)

The questions you should really be asking yourself are these;
1- What exactly had to remain unseen those few seconds by a spineless, selfish woman who was -literally and utterly- being owned by Moridin?
How about the transition from Shaidar Haran to Moridin.

2- Why wasn't Shaidar Haran in that room too, if they are seperate beings?



They are disctinct.
Like I said when discussing your title, I think we agree here. I'm just adding the "Slayer"-bit. RJ added a creature to his story that allows this. I think it's the main reason for Slayers existence in the story. RJ needed a way to make his revelation of what the Nae'Blis truly is, feel ...'intuitively obvious'.


I have to take a raincheck on answering the rest of your post, but I'm out of time. In a nuttshell though; I agree with most of it. But none of it disproves the issue at hand.

Cheers,
Mik

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