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Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. Mik Send a noteboard - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM
Ishy/Moridin starts off as a regular FS.

Then he gets stilled/burnt out/given a body that can't channel.
I'm not sure if you could call Ishamael a regular Dreadlord/ Chosen..ever. Even before the Bore was drilled, he was advocating the meaningless of Creation. The Absence of meaning to it all. Even before the Bore was there, he was Shai'tans champion, so to speak.

I even think it's his books -extremely influential in many areas- that gave Shai'tan it's power. It's why -all of a sudden- this so-called True Power could be felt. It's the people who believed what Elan Morin had written that was the basis for Shai'tans so-called True Power.
I mean.... what else changed in the AoL that all of a sudden this new Power-source could be detected? There had been millions of channelers all over the world for thousands of years.
What changed was the existence of those books and enough people believing what was written in them.

If 'Belief and Order give strenght' to Creation (per Fel's words), believing in the Absence of Meaning and believing in the Disassembly of Reason give strenght to Uncreation. And isn't that exactly what Shai'tan represents? The absence of everything. Nothingness. It's the essence of Shai'tan.
He. is. Noting.

Ishamael never was a regular Dreadlord. It's what earned him his infamous name. He 'betrayed all hope' by becomming the Soul of Shadow. No other Chosen can say the same.

Ishy/Moridin starts off as a regular FS.

Then he gets stilled/burnt out/given a body that can't channel.
About the second part of this quote; if you can't channel, you just can't channel! It's irrelevant what source is channelled -be it True Source or the so-called True Power- you have to be able to channel first and foremost!
A non-channeler also can't use the True Power.

As a non-perfect analogy, consider the following;
If you don't have a mouth, you can't drink, regardless of the beverage. ;)

Cheerioooow,
Mik

P.S:
I've seen theories that blame the sensing of Shai'tan on the weak-spot behind which is could be felt. But I think those are wrong. I think the weak-spot is the built-in place where Shai'tan is bound to the Wheel; the Soul of the Dragon.
How else could the Dragon "always be there to face Shai'tan"?
The weaving of the Dragon Soul into the Pattern (his birth) weaves the weak-spot into the Pattern.


Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
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No... - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 1035 Views
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Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 1044 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 893 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1196 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 941 Views
Au contraire. - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 1047 Views
But why... - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 871 Views
Re: But why... - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 931 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 943 Views
I think it would have to work this way: - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 888 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 991 Views
Um not quite - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 848 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1088 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1117 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 807 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 909 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 907 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 853 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 916 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 774 Views
The problem is... - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 734 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 839 Views
I already answered all this... - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 853 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 955 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 794 Views
Agreed then. - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 949 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 883 Views
No problem - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 933 Views
Why does that scene matter? - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 834 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 447 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 1004 Views
Just to understand you correctly... - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 850 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 919 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 884 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 784 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 736 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 953 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 834 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM 720 Views
True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 733 Views
One should also remember... - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 765 Views
Eh? - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 783 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 828 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 872 Views
I think... - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 679 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 920 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 804 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 736 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 971 Views
Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 808 Views
Re: Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 702 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 988 Views

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