Active Users:386 Time:29/04/2025 09:02:27 AM
I bet it wouldn't work LoialT Send a noteboard - 20/07/2010 08:52:00 PM

We don't know that's how the binder works. It's most likely it doesn't work like that. There's a binder for channelers and a binder for non-channelers and personally I think it has to do with physical differences, namely that channelers have different brains, or at least, their minds become altered when they're teenagers and exposed to the Source for the first time.

You don't even need to hold the Source to be bound... someone else can channel Spirit into the rod, so long as you touch it. A link would be just as useless, and even worse, the Sisters around would definitely notice. Mesaana would never trust her fate to the treacherous Black Ajah anyway... Liandrin was a murderous sneak at the best of times around Moghedien.


I don't think it is really about different brains as much as it is the same vulnerability that allows 1. The a'dam / The Domination Band; 2. Linking; 3. 13/13 Circle turning to the Dark. That is, I think the ability to channel allows one's spirit/mind to be opened to (and therefore vulnerable to) possession by outside spiritual forces (whether it is merging or domination produced by a direct link) or the possibility of being turned to the dark. This is not the same as rewiring the brain like in compulsion, which works equally well on channelers and non-channelers despite their "different brains." Rather, the Binders, a'dam, and 13/13 Circles all work around linking abilities. You also don't need to embrace the Source to be bound by an a'dam or controlled by a domination band and presumably the 13/13 circles wouldn't work if one only had to resist touching the Source to escape its powers. I also believe that the Warder bonds work more like a link and like the OR. This is another bond/binding that can be used to control others. Just look at Logain's control over the AS he bonded. It is absolute like the OR, not a matter of controlling consciousness like compulsion.


If someone put an a'dam on her ... she and the rest in the circle could very well be killed or stilled by such an action


or that it is at least as likely that the a'dam would break or the sul'dam powerfully affected (knocked out, stilled, feel pain like a man touching an adam). Being in a ring offers protection of a sorts, by making them all function like an individual with a single multiple psyches but one practical will. You can't shield just on person in a link. I bet that means you can't force just one member of a link into an involuntary ring either.
Reply to message
How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM 3738 Views
I agree with Deadsy... - 17/07/2010 11:32:09 AM 1010 Views
could be - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM 894 Views
I wonder if masking one's ability messes with the OR - 17/07/2010 02:44:37 PM 981 Views
I don't think - 17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM 1242 Views
Re: I don't think - 17/07/2010 07:26:57 PM 941 Views
Re: I don't think - 18/07/2010 06:13:59 PM 923 Views
Another AS does the channeling according to NS - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM 967 Views
And the Shaido "Wise Ones" channeled for Galina. *NM* - 18/07/2010 01:58:49 AM 522 Views
As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM 945 Views
That's an interesting theory - 18/07/2010 02:01:23 AM 935 Views
Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM 852 Views
Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 02:30:04 PM 770 Views
Re: Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 05:59:07 PM 799 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM 1066 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM 830 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM 816 Views
Re: How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 18/07/2010 04:46:23 PM 792 Views
I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM 949 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM 977 Views
Is the Verin thing widely known? - 19/07/2010 05:51:05 AM 875 Views
Re: Is the Verin thing widely known? - 20/07/2010 11:55:35 PM 852 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 19/07/2010 04:39:44 PM 807 Views
Everything you said but this... - 20/07/2010 01:25:34 AM 863 Views
Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant. - 18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM 900 Views
but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then.... - 19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM 744 Views
I don't really see why this is such a big issue: - 22/07/2010 03:34:46 AM 1022 Views
Because - 22/07/2010 03:50:36 PM 742 Views
What about the True Power? - 19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM 879 Views
TP + OR = Boom? - 19/07/2010 06:47:01 AM 818 Views
Re: TP + OR = Boom? or Melt? - 20/07/2010 01:33:20 AM 891 Views
What about Compulsion on herself? - 19/07/2010 09:07:32 PM 826 Views
Interesting idea, I think this might work. *NM* - 20/07/2010 02:33:04 PM 435 Views
Re: What about Compulsion on herself? - 20/07/2010 06:07:53 PM 710 Views
I just thought of the most obvious way around it. - 20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM 887 Views
I actually like this idea. - 20/07/2010 07:40:56 PM 787 Views
I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 07:44:49 PM 961 Views
Re: I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 08:51:15 PM 758 Views
Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM 812 Views
I agree, but... - 20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM 911 Views
This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link - 20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM 796 Views
I bet it wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:52:00 PM 1239 Views
this is also possible - 20/07/2010 09:17:36 PM 830 Views
I don't think so - 20/07/2010 09:05:58 PM 802 Views
I don't know - 20/07/2010 09:16:55 PM 820 Views
Re: Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM 1176 Views
I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM 804 Views
Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM 890 Views
Off-topic question: - 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM 728 Views
What about immortality? - 20/07/2010 08:03:21 PM 739 Views
Depends on how she is immortal. - 21/07/2010 09:09:49 PM 675 Views

Reply to Message