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I actually like this idea. Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 20/07/2010 07:40:56 PM
The Binders work on channelers by using their connection to the Source to lay down the Compulsion. This is why it is not only symbolic but necessary for there to be one channeler to operate the Binder and another channeler to agree to be Bound. This is also why Binders do not work on non-channeling criminals, with other ter'angreal, such as the Chair of Remorse, or a Compulsion weave, being used for such purposes.

If Mesaana was in a Link, the Compulsion might very well be negated because her access to the Power was being provided from other connections.

In this case, by the time Egwene had ordered that every Aes Sedai re-swear the Oaths, we were told that all the Black Ajah members had fled, and only a few were captured in comparison to the amount captured in the Rebel camp. It seems to me that this piece of information is very important, because it indicated not only that the Black Ajah figured out what Egwene was going to do, but also they had time to coordinate and plan.

Perhaps Mesaana ordered one or more Black Ajah Sisters into a Link and by this, she escaped being bound because Compulsion would not work on a channeler that was Linked with others?

An example would be a Shield. A Shield usually doesn't work when wielded by one channeler against a Circle because the Shielder would need to be strong enough to cut off all the members of the Circle at once, which is hard to do (in fact, we've never seen this happen - all we've seen was Rand attack a Shield that had held him by destroying tied off points). Perhaps Compulsion works the same way.

We also know that the distance a channeler can Travel before their Link beings to attenuate and weaken is quite considerable - the Black Ajah Aes Sedai could have been hundreds of miles away from Tar Valon and still contribute to Mesaana's Circle.

Strengthening piece of trivia: We are also told that holding the Power gives you increased protection from Compulsion. If you were to increase your power level by a significant amount, you could make yourself immune to another channelers' Compulsion weave unless they themselves used a Circle, angreal or sa'angreal to significantly boost the strength of their weave. By Linking to 12 other Black Ajah Sisters and keeping the amount of Power she held negligible enough to pass, Mesaana might have made herself too powerful to be Bound by all but the strongest Aes Sedai currently living in a Circle directed against her.


Of course, there are several issues that needs to be resolved:
1) we need proof that Oath on the Rod is actually a Compulsion. There are several points against it. For example, Compulsion tends to wear off on the channelers. It's enough that channeler can resist the Compulsion. See Morgase. Another example, as you pointed, that the stronger the channeler, the difficult is to put him/her under Compulsion. I'm pretty sure it's not the way the Rod operates.
2) the link between Mesaana and Black Ajah is strong enough to operate on such distance. We've never seen it. The one we saw was between two twin sisters and they claim that they can hold it in big distance. But this is between twin sisters. I'm not sure it would be the case with different people. Otherwise, Forsaken would've roam around linked with the full circle hidden somewhere in their lair.
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How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM 3738 Views
I agree with Deadsy... - 17/07/2010 11:32:09 AM 1010 Views
could be - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM 894 Views
I wonder if masking one's ability messes with the OR - 17/07/2010 02:44:37 PM 980 Views
I don't think - 17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM 1242 Views
Re: I don't think - 17/07/2010 07:26:57 PM 941 Views
Re: I don't think - 18/07/2010 06:13:59 PM 923 Views
Another AS does the channeling according to NS - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM 966 Views
And the Shaido "Wise Ones" channeled for Galina. *NM* - 18/07/2010 01:58:49 AM 522 Views
As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM 945 Views
That's an interesting theory - 18/07/2010 02:01:23 AM 934 Views
Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM 852 Views
Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 02:30:04 PM 770 Views
Re: Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 05:59:07 PM 798 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM 1066 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM 830 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM 816 Views
Re: How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 18/07/2010 04:46:23 PM 792 Views
I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM 949 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM 977 Views
Is the Verin thing widely known? - 19/07/2010 05:51:05 AM 875 Views
Re: Is the Verin thing widely known? - 20/07/2010 11:55:35 PM 852 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 19/07/2010 04:39:44 PM 807 Views
Everything you said but this... - 20/07/2010 01:25:34 AM 863 Views
Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant. - 18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM 899 Views
but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then.... - 19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM 744 Views
I don't really see why this is such a big issue: - 22/07/2010 03:34:46 AM 1022 Views
Because - 22/07/2010 03:50:36 PM 741 Views
What about the True Power? - 19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM 879 Views
TP + OR = Boom? - 19/07/2010 06:47:01 AM 818 Views
Re: TP + OR = Boom? or Melt? - 20/07/2010 01:33:20 AM 891 Views
What about Compulsion on herself? - 19/07/2010 09:07:32 PM 826 Views
Interesting idea, I think this might work. *NM* - 20/07/2010 02:33:04 PM 434 Views
Re: What about Compulsion on herself? - 20/07/2010 06:07:53 PM 709 Views
I just thought of the most obvious way around it. - 20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM 887 Views
I actually like this idea. - 20/07/2010 07:40:56 PM 787 Views
I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 07:44:49 PM 961 Views
Re: I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 08:51:15 PM 758 Views
Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM 812 Views
I agree, but... - 20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM 911 Views
This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link - 20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM 796 Views
I bet it wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:52:00 PM 1238 Views
this is also possible - 20/07/2010 09:17:36 PM 830 Views
I don't think so - 20/07/2010 09:05:58 PM 802 Views
I don't know - 20/07/2010 09:16:55 PM 820 Views
Re: Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM 1176 Views
I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM 804 Views
Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM 889 Views
Off-topic question: - 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM 728 Views
What about immortality? - 20/07/2010 08:03:21 PM 739 Views
Depends on how she is immortal. - 21/07/2010 09:09:49 PM 675 Views

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