but I think it's possible that she might die if she takes the Oaths... she's about as old as Cadsuane.
I know this has been a hot point of debate and I'll admit I didn't slog through all of it so forgive me if someone has already argued this point with you.
I think when you take the oaths, they cut whatever remaining lifespan you would have had roughly in half. The WT Aes Sedai don't live much past 300, but one and all they swear the oaths very early in life. So their projected remaining life was approx 600 years, they get only 300. If Mesanna has lived about 300 years, and then took oaths, I think they would take her remaining 300-400 years and cut them in half.
She would not appear to age on the spot, or die, or appear ageless. (note: I think agelessness comes from time spent under the Oaths, not age + oaths) So Mesaana would appear exactly the same, but her projected lifespan would be only 150 or so more years. After 20 years she would look ageless just like an Aes Sedai. But none of that last bit would happen if she removed them quickly.
Point: by this reasoning, Siuan won't suddenly look like herself again when she retakes the oaths. She will gain the agelessness in about 20 more years, and since her clock was reset, she should live a bit longer than the other Aes Sedai.
I think this theory is supported by a similar RJ commentary:
RJ's blog 20 January 2006 "IT'S BEEN A WHILE"
- Regarding Sharina, and other women who learn to channel at age, she will indeed grow younger in appearance. No, she will not achieve an Aes Sedai face without the Oath Rod, but where she has previously looked, say, sixty, she will look perhaps thirty-five, with accompanying changes in hair color. Think of it as analogous to slowing, which older women also do.
So the power makes women age much more slowly. If cut from the power, you go back to being young. If granted the power in old age, you become young again. I don't think this evidence points to the three oaths aging someone on the spot.
I always say, if you must mount the gallows, give a jest to the crowd, a coin to the hangman, and make the drop with a smile on your lips. ~Birgitte
This message last edited by CatherineSedai on 21/07/2010 at 07:25:38 AM
How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod?
17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM
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That isn't tricking the oath rod, the way I'm understanding his answer. That's tricking humans *NM*
17/07/2010 10:29:52 AM
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I don't think
17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM
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As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM
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Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM
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I think this is a tricky issue
18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM
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Re: I think this is a tricky issue
18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM
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Perhaps she pressed, and held the on/off switch, so that the Oaths never triggered? *NM*
19/07/2010 09:50:13 PM
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Everything you said but this...
20/07/2010 01:25:34 AM
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Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant.
18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM
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but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then....
19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM
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What about the True Power?
19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM
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A true power invisible glove is better than a one power invisible glove. *NM*
20/07/2010 07:46:48 PM
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I doubt Mesaana stands high enough to have TP access right now. She's probably the lowest FS. *NM*
20/07/2010 07:55:31 PM
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Yeah I realize what I presented was kinda the opposite of what I was going for.
20/07/2010 02:15:46 AM
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I just thought of the most obvious way around it.
20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM
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Wouldn't work
20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM
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I agree, but...
20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM
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This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link
20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM
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Re: Wouldn't work
20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM
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I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM
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Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM
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Off-topic question:
21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM
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I'm fairly certain that the ability can't be sensed until they are very close to touching
21/07/2010 09:29:54 PM
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