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Re: A horrible woman indeed! CatherineSedai Send a noteboard - 20/07/2010 01:17:18 AM
Strangely, Tuon is pretty much the only Seanchan character I don't like. I wish Galgan had been the Emperor, it would have been so much better.

Tuon has been undesirable to me from the beginning of the series. She's everything that's rotten about a royal lineage with the strictest cultural boundaries.

After reading what other posters have written, I'm surprised we're reading the same series. She's completely inflexible and only believes things once she is literally overwhelmed with evidence. She only conceded to herself that Mat was perhaps more than a brigand in TGS when Rand and Nynaeve both told her that he's a good man. Mat is going to rue every day he's married to her. Her handling of channeling has been anything but flexible - she still intends to leash everyone and she attacked the Tower.

She's the biggest threat to the Light and has undermined them more than the Shadow has. She's very lucky Rand didn't destroy them, which he had every right to, though I think Egwene is going to take a nasty bite out of her.


I stand by everything I posted higher up, but I'm defending Tuon the woman. Tuon, the character in RAND'S thread, is just awful. She deserves everything that comes to her. She does constitute the biggest threat after the DO, and her society is nearly as bad as darkfriends for all the cultural threat they pose to Randland. To us, her unwillingness to make peace with Rand is like another nail in the coffin of the Light. To her, she just refused to make a treaty with the people she came to conquesr under her rule. She's probably more than a little pissed too, based on her norms, to find that they have forgotten the oaths they swore, and that instead of being welcomed and honored by a united people, like she believed, she found out she had to subdue most of a continent one fractured empire at a time while they summoned their best to face her with. Just Tuon, the person, is highly likable. The role Tuon is playing in our main plot, and what her beliefs are leading her to do at this most critical point in history makes her a very effective villain.

She's completely inflexible and only believes things once she is literally overwhelmed with evidence.


^She could be an Aes Sedai!!! Or almost any other female in this series!!!
I always say, if you must mount the gallows, give a jest to the crowd, a coin to the hangman, and make the drop with a smile on your lips. ~Birgitte
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Character discussion 10 : Tuon - 18/07/2010 06:08:30 PM 1914 Views
Most annoying, unlikeable, incomprehensible, irredeemable character in the books. - 18/07/2010 06:44:14 PM 1091 Views
I disprove your argument with one word. Coincidentally, it is a character. - 18/07/2010 07:50:17 PM 908 Views
Bah. - 18/07/2010 11:51:48 PM 910 Views
Actually, I like both of them. - 19/07/2010 06:41:12 AM 824 Views
Re: Actually, I like both of them. - 21/07/2010 01:22:21 PM 766 Views
I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 07:45:11 PM 1002 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 07:56:22 PM 951 Views
I guess I should have said she and Egwene share positive personality traits - 18/07/2010 09:01:50 PM 928 Views
Agreed. - 18/07/2010 09:11:19 PM 826 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 11:53:37 PM 885 Views
well said *NM* - 19/07/2010 01:39:46 AM 406 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 19/07/2010 03:34:42 AM 845 Views
I disagree. *NM* - 19/07/2010 08:04:45 AM 379 Views
Brandon said it was her mental toughness... - 20/07/2010 06:34:18 AM 771 Views
Cool character but has major flaws - 19/07/2010 06:22:15 AM 865 Views
The a'dam and the 3 Oaths are a lot alike. - 20/07/2010 01:01:49 AM 939 Views
Re: The a'dam and the 3 Oaths are a lot alike. - 21/07/2010 02:22:26 PM 671 Views
Also... - 22/07/2010 08:39:48 PM 821 Views
Re: Also... - 22/07/2010 09:19:37 PM 693 Views
Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 19/07/2010 06:58:46 PM 835 Views
Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 12:39:15 AM 819 Views
Yeah, What he said ^^ and... - 20/07/2010 01:05:49 AM 794 Views
Need better examples... - 20/07/2010 05:20:48 AM 737 Views
Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 03:59:30 PM 782 Views
You meant to say Graendal used Arad Doman as her base & destroyed it, right? - 20/07/2010 04:14:41 PM 888 Views
Yes. - 20/07/2010 05:17:32 PM 790 Views
There are plenty of examples - 20/07/2010 08:59:19 PM 952 Views
Re: There are plenty of examples - 21/07/2010 02:21:01 PM 688 Views
Tuon carries out enlightened absolutism, then - 22/07/2010 11:24:22 AM 869 Views
Re: Tuon carries out enlightened absolutism, then - 22/07/2010 03:32:54 PM 663 Views
The Seanchen as a whole are better rulers - 21/07/2010 04:21:09 AM 743 Views
Does Tuon know sul'dam can channel or not? - 18/07/2010 10:56:40 PM 834 Views
Answered my own question = Yes. - 18/07/2010 11:00:09 PM 810 Views
one of my favorite characters - 19/07/2010 01:38:53 AM 769 Views
Like her - 19/07/2010 07:00:01 AM 834 Views
A horrible woman - 19/07/2010 07:02:45 AM 910 Views
Re: A horrible woman - 19/07/2010 08:39:05 AM 828 Views
on this we agree - 19/07/2010 07:56:31 PM 854 Views
Re: on this we agree - 20/07/2010 01:04:07 AM 821 Views
Re: A horrible woman indeed! - 20/07/2010 01:17:18 AM 705 Views
Re: A horrible woman - 21/07/2010 04:19:24 PM 728 Views
I think she has the most potential for evil - 19/07/2010 03:24:28 PM 801 Views
Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 21/07/2010 04:27:45 PM 699 Views
Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 22/07/2010 07:54:24 PM 628 Views
Don't like her at all - 19/07/2010 06:38:05 PM 714 Views
I like her! As a character - 20/07/2010 01:46:09 AM 773 Views
One of Jordan's better done characters... - 20/07/2010 04:56:36 AM 783 Views
Tuon and omens plus other thoughts. - 20/07/2010 05:20:26 AM 738 Views
On that note, I think she is a bit uncanny because she sometimes seems a bit insane - 20/07/2010 03:52:58 PM 742 Views
One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM 765 Views
She would have been killed - 21/07/2010 08:43:44 AM 796 Views
Yup, she had no choice there. - 21/07/2010 04:31:13 PM 716 Views
Fortuona - 22/07/2010 03:36:51 AM 1136 Views

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