Mesaana could have channelled a protective layer (like gloves) not to touch directly the OR. It's theorically possible, but she would have been surrounded by sisters looking closely at what she was doing (and ready to shield her if she failed the test).
She could easily have woven the barrier before the testing, say when she was alone in her rooms or something. With an inverted weave, no one would have known at all.
That is not what I meant. It's not the weave that would be visible, it's the barrier of air.
I'm not convinced Mesaana could manipulate an object naturally if there's a barrier of air standing between it and her hands, and there would be many sisters looking at her closely. We haven't seen anything like a malleable barrier of air being woven before, like a skin/a glove. All barriers of air we have seen were solid/unbreakable. Mesaana could not move her hands if she surrounded them with air.
The AOL AS trusted the Binder as a judiciary tool, so it's really not obvious it can be beaten at all (and we're a bit at a loss to guess how, because we don't know for sure what the OR does. It seems to work as a kind of compulsion, but there's no visible weave).
I'm not sure what Brandon said has to be taken so literally either (by "defeating the OR" did he meant the rod itself, or the test with the OR Egwene imposed on all sisters? With RJ we'd know pretty much it's the former, but Brandon uses odd/ambiguous formulations often enough). Avoiding to swear the Oaths on the Binder is the most obvious way to beat it, and I think the difference between doing this by managing not to touch the Binder or sending someone else to swear for you (ie: a non-BA Mesaana then killed) is splitting hair. The net result is that you fool the AS into believing you're bound when you're not, and in neither case you really "beat the OR" literally.
This message last edited by DomA on 18/07/2010 at 06:19:56 PM
How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod?
17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM
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That isn't tricking the oath rod, the way I'm understanding his answer. That's tricking humans *NM*
17/07/2010 10:29:52 AM
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I don't think
17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM
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Re: I don't think
17/07/2010 07:26:57 PM
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Re: I don't think
18/07/2010 06:13:59 PM
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As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM
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Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM
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I think this is a tricky issue
18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM
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Re: I think this is a tricky issue
18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM
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Perhaps she pressed, and held the on/off switch, so that the Oaths never triggered? *NM*
19/07/2010 09:50:13 PM
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Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant.
18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM
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but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then....
19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM
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What about the True Power?
19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM
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A true power invisible glove is better than a one power invisible glove. *NM*
20/07/2010 07:46:48 PM
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I doubt Mesaana stands high enough to have TP access right now. She's probably the lowest FS. *NM*
20/07/2010 07:55:31 PM
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Yeah I realize what I presented was kinda the opposite of what I was going for.
20/07/2010 02:15:46 AM
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I just thought of the most obvious way around it.
20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM
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Wouldn't work
20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM
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I agree, but...
20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM
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This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link
20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM
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Re: Wouldn't work
20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM
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I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM
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Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM
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Off-topic question:
21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM
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I'm fairly certain that the ability can't be sensed until they are very close to touching
21/07/2010 09:29:54 PM
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