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could be nigelgoboom Send a noteboard - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM
Your suggestion isn't really a way to beat the Oath Rod . BS's answer indicates that Mesaana in her AS disguise (IMO, most likely the White Norine Dovarna) seemingly took the Oaths, but actually found a technical way to prevent that the Oath Rod works as it should.

Personally, I think it makes some sense that Mesaana prevented that the Oath Rod touched her skin, e.g. by an invisible and inverted OP barrier around her hand or something like that. Thus, the Oath Rod couldn't work as it should.


being not only an AoL AS but also an academic of the time she very likely knew the principles of the binding weave itself and therefore could have come up with several ways to beat the weave itself. whether gloves of air or just a specific type of warding, inverted of course.

but it doesn't have to be that complicated. whether egwene asked if they were df's or even ba, from mesaana's perspective she's neither. she's a "CHOSEN", or a "TRUE" aes sedai, or maybe even a "god" like graendal seemed to suggest.

the simple question of "do you serve the DO" might not even work if mesaana merely has to "decide" on the spot not to and then claim not to serve the DO. the better question to put them too would be "have you ever served the DO" or "have you ever considered yourself one of the chosen"

or how about "what was the name of the city were you born at the time of your birth?". that would work too, for the forsaken at least. hehe

cheers



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Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM 852 Views
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Off-topic question: - 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM 728 Views
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