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IMO... Etzel Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM
Nothing indicates that Aran'gar or Delana were there. By your logic one could argue in the same way that anyone else was probably there: Moridin, Demandred, Fain and SH probably just had a party at Graendal's palace...

Logic? How are any of those Forsaken who are allied with Graendal who've had their base toppled?


You have a wrong view on the Forsaken. First of all, Graendal still calls it a "newly minted association with Aran’gar" in TGS, not a real alliance. The Forsaken hardly trust each other that much that they would allow another one to move into their lair, just because this Forsaken lost his base. It's simply a fabrication that Aran'gar and Delana suddenly stayed at Graendal's lair.

As far as I know, Osan'gar didn't appear in CoT. Very strange, he died in WH, consequently he should have a flashback PoV or at least appear on-screen in the next book to give us further info on his plots!

Why is it strange? Did CoT have a PoV from every character? Were there any Forsaken PoV's?


But why does Graendal then have to get a PoV from before her death in ToM, if it never happened before?!
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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount Skeeve the Great - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 2128 Views
This... Etzel - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1266 Views
how do you get there from this? darius_sedai - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 1112 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: beetnemesis - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 1043 Views
Because... Etzel - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 1091 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan newyorkersedai - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 1024 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 Rurouni_Kenshin - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 937 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. Etzel - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 1045 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 1022 Views
Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer dacole - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM 986 Views
Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM 1008 Views
No... Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 921 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 887 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* Etzel - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 850 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 1051 Views
Again... Etzel - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 813 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 978 Views
The point is... Etzel - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 924 Views
that is 100% your interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 962 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 869 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 877 Views
As far as we know... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 928 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 1087 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 835 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 953 Views
We will see... *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 1147 Views
Indeed Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 863 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 1059 Views
give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong dacole - 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM 949 Views
I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM 1134 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 985 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 1056 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 944 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 1042 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 877 Views
where do you get this stuff from? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 1084 Views
Eh, no Etzel - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 949 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 922 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 1035 Views
pure interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 950 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 1027 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 426 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 764 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 897 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Etzel - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 921 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 885 Views
IMO... Etzel - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 849 Views
And... Etzel - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 968 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 971 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 1026 Views
not really darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 1107 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 1087 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 942 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 952 Views
Ok... Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 855 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 930 Views
I also just said that... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 828 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 883 Views
But we never... Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 945 Views
Re: But we never... Datakim - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 898 Views
I think Etzel - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 1002 Views
Re: I think Datakim - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 988 Views
Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM 910 Views
Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true. Logain - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM 1055 Views
I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM 1005 Views
Because some people can't read... DomA - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 1058 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 817 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM 836 Views
Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM 1043 Views
I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 966 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 929 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base Logain - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1115 Views
hrmm, not necessarily Kieran - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 888 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 456 Views
Uh... TaskmasterJack - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 1011 Views
or "can't" because ... Shishka - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 873 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... TaskmasterJack - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 890 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 1014 Views
On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous! RandAllThor - 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM 874 Views
Perrin catch-up? Comet Sedai - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 814 Views
We will get it on screen Deadsy - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 886 Views
On Mat's "death" Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 1128 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" Datakim - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 844 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 968 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 976 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! Mats imaginary friend - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 900 Views
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