I think I disagree with both of you here. It's not fanatical at all, but I think on some level, the candidates know that it's all fake, and that it's giving in or giving up to stick around. I don't understand Sidious' or Sheriam's strong feelings on the matter though. I can see scorning them a bit, maybe, but such hatred and anger? I don't really get it.
What exactly does "on some level, the candidates know that it's all fake" mean? Intuition? Instinct? If I'm going to forsake my responsibilities, I very much better have a solid reason for doing so, and "my gut told me to" does not satisfy that requirement. My gut is quite competent at digestion, but I would not trust it to resolve a dilemma (to the extent that this could be considered a dilemma at all).
And I agree. If it's just a faint "something's off" feeling, then it's highly irresponsible to leave.
But I think it's more like a dream, probably a very-slightly-lucid dream. Would you wake up from a dream if you knew it was important?
I don't remember any of my dreams, I can't really say how it feels to be dreaming. This said, from our perspective within the books, both Nynaeve and Egwene seemed quite convinced that what they were experiencing was real. 'Course, Egwene's case was different, she maintained some of her memories because of the ter'angreal reaction.
Now, you say "would you wake up from a dream if you knew it was important", and the answer is probably yes, but in order to wake up from that dream you have to fail to do something important... what would you trust? Sensory input and memories, or 'a feeling'? This is why I believe the test to be stupid. Participants are not choosing between reality and a dream, they know there is a choice to be made, but they have no knowledge of what is at stake.
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I think the Amayar are the stupidest people ever
- 30/06/2010 08:52:45 PM
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yeah, I despise fanatics of any type
- 30/06/2010 09:44:08 PM
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Can't agree with all of those.
- 30/06/2010 10:58:25 PM
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Yeah, I disagree too...
- 01/07/2010 02:28:13 AM
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Re: Yeah, I disagree too...
- 01/07/2010 03:20:30 AM
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I'm not sure.
- 01/07/2010 03:45:44 AM
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Difficult to say.
- 01/07/2010 05:09:46 AM
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Curse you, I had to go look up Nynaeve's Testing.
- 01/07/2010 06:20:06 PM
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Nope, still can't agree.
- 01/07/2010 06:40:25 PM
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I'm not going to argue that it's a good test
- 01/07/2010 08:51:31 PM
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Re: I'm not going to argue that it's a good test
- 01/07/2010 10:26:24 PM
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IMO, they do.
- 02/07/2010 12:22:41 AM
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Okay different angle,
- 02/07/2010 12:27:57 AM
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Re: Okay different angle,
- 03/07/2010 08:29:09 PM
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Re: Okay different angle,
- 03/07/2010 09:28:20 PM
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You really don't remember your dreams very often?
- 03/07/2010 11:41:57 PM
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Haven't since I was a wee little kid.
- 04/07/2010 12:54:11 AM
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Re: Haven't since I was a wee little kid.
- 05/07/2010 06:02:24 AM
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- 05/07/2010 06:59:09 AM
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- 05/07/2010 06:59:09 AM
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Chipping in...
- 04/07/2010 01:11:26 AM
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Re: Chipping in...
- 04/07/2010 02:44:21 AM
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Fair enough
- 01/07/2010 08:53:05 AM
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Human beings have a pretty large capacity for "stupid" behavior
- 30/06/2010 09:47:27 PM
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I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life
- 30/06/2010 10:30:06 PM
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Perhaps.
- 30/06/2010 10:23:42 PM
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IMO that makes them even worse!
- 30/06/2010 10:33:03 PM
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Considering that their system of belief...
- 30/06/2010 11:55:12 PM
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But they could have played a part Singing, just like the Tinkers to which they're related may do *NM*
- 01/07/2010 09:08:46 AM
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Because their feeble ability to sing to crops would really come in handy.
- 01/07/2010 05:43:03 PM
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There are other SOngs than seed-singing.
- 01/07/2010 06:26:54 PM
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Even if there are. They've been lost. And humanity has lost that Talent.
- 01/07/2010 10:28:30 PM
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the Tinkers will at least make themselves useful as we saw in the BoEF
- 01/07/2010 03:49:08 PM
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to be fair, if I were an Amayar I would try to respawn as well 
*NM*
- 01/07/2010 04:29:02 AM
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*NM*
- 01/07/2010 04:29:02 AM
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You know...
- 01/07/2010 06:42:41 PM
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But something of you still contiunes on.
- 01/07/2010 10:30:12 PM
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Indeed
- 01/07/2010 10:37:03 PM
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None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes?
- 01/07/2010 10:54:30 PM
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