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Yeah, I disagree too... Gher Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 02:28:13 AM
the Aiel male channelers who run off to the Blight,

Well, they're not so much committing suicide as choosing the way they die. They're going to die anyway, so they view it as preferable to die killing incarnations of absolute evil than just rotting away, or going crazy and murdering the people they care about.

Exactly. This one actually seems like a highly responsible thing to do, not fanatical. If I knew I was going to go insane and die horribly, putting everyone around me in extreme danger, I'd run away too. In fact, it's admirable that they don't sic themselves on rival clans.

or Aiel Clan chiefs who tear their faces off when they see their past,

Yeah, this one's a little weird, but like you said, it's at least somewhat understandable. I guess it'd be like finding out your ancestors were all mass-murderers. I still can't see ripping your face off, but given the way they're raised, I dunno.


or Aes Sedai who decide to stay in a ter'angreal for the 'better life'.

Here I think the exact opposite. That test is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Anybody with a half decent sense of responsibility should stay in that ter'angreal. Seriously, imagine that you're wife is in labour and you've got to drive her to the hospital. Suddenly you hear voices in your head that tell you to abandon them behind and go running into a bright glowing doorway that only you can see. You actually respect people who ditch their responsibilities to follow their own insanity more than those who realise what their priorities are?


I think I disagree with both of you here. It's not fanatical at all, but I think on some level, the candidates know that it's all fake, and that it's giving in or giving up to stick around. I don't understand Sidious' or Sheriam's strong feelings on the matter though. I can see scorning them a bit, maybe, but such hatred and anger? I don't really get it.
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I think the Amayar are the stupidest people ever Lordling - 30/06/2010 08:52:45 PM 2086 Views
It's the Jones Town massacre darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 09:33:42 PM 781 Views
Re: It's the Jones Town massacre orius - 03/07/2010 09:27:35 AM 781 Views
yeah, I despise fanatics of any type Sidious - 30/06/2010 09:44:08 PM 925 Views
Can't agree with all of those. Fanatic-Templar - 30/06/2010 10:58:25 PM 885 Views
Yeah, I disagree too... Gher - 01/07/2010 02:28:13 AM 870 Views
Re: Yeah, I disagree too... Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 03:20:30 AM 696 Views
I'm not sure. Gher - 01/07/2010 03:45:44 AM 792 Views
Difficult to say. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 05:09:46 AM 753 Views
Curse you, I had to go look up Nynaeve's Testing. Gher - 01/07/2010 06:20:06 PM 795 Views
Nope, still can't agree. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:40:25 PM 696 Views
I'm not going to argue that it's a good test Gher - 01/07/2010 08:51:31 PM 644 Views
Re: I'm not going to argue that it's a good test Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:26:24 PM 729 Views
IMO, they do. Gher - 02/07/2010 12:22:41 AM 695 Views
Okay different angle, Fanatic-Templar - 02/07/2010 12:27:57 AM 589 Views
Re: Okay different angle, Gher - 03/07/2010 08:29:09 PM 697 Views
Re: Okay different angle, Fanatic-Templar - 03/07/2010 09:28:20 PM 589 Views
You really don't remember your dreams very often? Gher - 03/07/2010 11:41:57 PM 684 Views
Haven't since I was a wee little kid. Fanatic-Templar - 04/07/2010 12:54:11 AM 785 Views
Re: Haven't since I was a wee little kid. Gher - 05/07/2010 06:02:24 AM 592 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 05/07/2010 06:59:09 AM 637 Views
Chipping in... fionwe1987 - 04/07/2010 01:11:26 AM 680 Views
Re: Chipping in... Fanatic-Templar - 04/07/2010 02:44:21 AM 791 Views
Re: Chipping in... fionwe1987 - 05/07/2010 09:16:51 AM 791 Views
You may be right. Fanatic-Templar - 05/07/2010 05:53:21 PM 684 Views
Fair enough Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:53:05 AM 886 Views
Owyn helped his village? Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 11:23:37 AM 709 Views
Yeah Sidious - 01/07/2010 12:31:03 PM 749 Views
Easier than you think Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 12:42:39 PM 644 Views
Yes, I suppose they could. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:16:38 PM 749 Views
Human beings have a pretty large capacity for "stupid" behavior RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/06/2010 09:47:27 PM 705 Views
I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 10:30:06 PM 697 Views
Re: I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life DomA - 01/07/2010 01:39:50 AM 803 Views
and those crazy comet people in San Diego in the late 90's too! darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:49:59 PM 696 Views
Perhaps. krassos - 30/06/2010 10:23:42 PM 708 Views
IMO that makes them even worse! darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 10:33:03 PM 657 Views
Considering that their system of belief... krassos - 30/06/2010 11:55:12 PM 635 Views
But they could have played a part Singing, just like the Tinkers to which they're related may do *NM* Lordling - 01/07/2010 09:08:46 AM 361 Views
Because their feeble ability to sing to crops would really come in handy. krassos - 01/07/2010 05:43:03 PM 797 Views
There are other SOngs than seed-singing. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:26:54 PM 695 Views
Even if there are. They've been lost. And humanity has lost that Talent. krassos - 01/07/2010 10:28:30 PM 573 Views
Only second-hand. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:49:58 PM 848 Views
the Tinkers will at least make themselves useful as we saw in the BoEF darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:49:08 PM 648 Views
The Tinkers are also on the mainland... krassos - 01/07/2010 05:36:40 PM 566 Views
to be fair, if I were an Amayar I would try to respawn as well *NM* BlackAdder - 01/07/2010 04:29:02 AM 656 Views
Take it from a lazy person's PoV: KOuellette - 01/07/2010 10:51:07 AM 737 Views
LOL *NM* darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:53:31 PM 307 Views
You know... Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:42:41 PM 670 Views
But something of you still contiunes on. krassos - 01/07/2010 10:30:12 PM 611 Views
Indeed Sidious - 01/07/2010 10:37:03 PM 606 Views
None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes? Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:54:30 PM 633 Views
Re: None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes? Sidious - 02/07/2010 12:01:35 AM 585 Views
Well, yes, but that's only temporary . Fanatic-Templar - 02/07/2010 12:27:07 AM 751 Views
From my perspective, that is meaningless. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:52:22 PM 570 Views
Given how often Prophecies are right in that world... Gher - 01/07/2010 02:33:21 AM 644 Views
They should work to ensure there's a place to be reborn in. Lohikaarme - 01/07/2010 08:10:46 PM 561 Views
Yeah, pretty crazy Etzel - 01/07/2010 01:17:33 PM 654 Views
Why? Nolan - 01/07/2010 03:20:36 PM 625 Views
Presumably, Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:45:02 PM 683 Views
Clear something up for me. Palatine - 01/07/2010 06:33:07 PM 635 Views
They aren't. krassos - 01/07/2010 10:35:38 PM 580 Views
Re: They aren't. lyringlas - 06/07/2010 03:42:40 PM 598 Views
The Amayar suck, but people believe crazy things newyorkersedai - 01/07/2010 09:22:45 PM 826 Views
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