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It seems... Etzel Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM
SH can - at least at the moment - only really affect people sworn to the Shadow, according to the following report/Q&A by BS:

Q :You mention that Shaidar Haran has quite a few limitations on his power. Can you give us a few concrete examples of these limitations?
A: Shaidar Haran needs a minion to do most of his work for him. Elza was essential to Shaidar Haran in getting things done.

This lead to lots of discussion about swearing to the Shadow – basically, it’s a very bad idea and you forfeit some very basic protections when you do. Shaidar Haran has special power over those that swear to the Dark One, and the Forsaken in particular. I asked about Alviarin’s special mark, and he said Shaidar Haran has similar power over her. The implication is that there are lots of ramifications for swearing to the Dark One. Brandon mentioned that this makes Verin all the more remarkable.


Likely this will change the more power the DO gets on the world.

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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? Joel - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3745 Views
Maybe they found it with need? Cannoli - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1067 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. Lord Haart - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1371 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past darius_sedai - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1177 Views
Another good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1143 Views
A good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 932 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. CatherineSedai - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1106 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1191 Views
Would that work, I wonder? Joel - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 986 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 779 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? Skeeve the Great - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1021 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 952 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1081 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? darius_sedai - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 895 Views
I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1018 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1064 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 996 Views
I agree scalius - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 997 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 982 Views
I agree as well Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 897 Views
Sensing the TP Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 802 Views
Re: Sensing the TP Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 758 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: Joel - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 969 Views
It seems... Etzel - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 910 Views
Re: It seems... DomA - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 928 Views
Hmmm.... Etzel - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 724 Views
Good points DomA - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1065 Views
That's a good observation scalius - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 922 Views
But there isn't anything magical in the sword preparing process, is there? Lordling - 29/06/2010 09:02:58 PM 752 Views
but the swords wear out over time so it could mean that the effect is only a temporary binding darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:07:01 PM 1017 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* Etzel - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 837 Views
Some thoughts Sidious - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 815 Views
Elza didn't use the true power Timthetrolloc - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 893 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power DomA - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1055 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 871 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 978 Views
About use of the TP scalius - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 997 Views
UR WRONG Deadsy - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 915 Views
AM NOT111 Joel - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 734 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 793 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 895 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 704 Views
I think it is Sorilea RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 843 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea DomA - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 915 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 826 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ Etzel - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 848 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much DomA - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 965 Views
you are likley correct darius_sedai - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 797 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 926 Views
Perrin comes to mind. Anything to save Faile. He's been DF all alonng! who'd have guessed? *NM* Lohikaarme - 08/07/2010 01:08:24 PM 442 Views
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