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Re: My idea DomA Send a noteboard - 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM
Basically, the Bore is nothing else than a special, gigantic Gateway drilled with the OP through the Pattern to the DO.


Except it's highly doubtful that's what the Bore is.

Jordan rather described the Bore as a global weakness in the Pattern. It is not even really at Shayol Ghul, and wasn't drilled there either (it was drilled at the Collaam Daan).

I think trying to patch the Pit of Doom is in truth one of the mistakes LTT made, and he realised this as he performed the deed. The Bore is part of Shai'tan manifested in space/time in Creation through the global weakness created by the Drilling. To touch the Bore with the OP is to touch Shai'tan. Rand/LTT knows this is not a viable solution (and Posae's idea of sealing the area of SG would not have worked either).

The "Bore" is a global problem, and to remove it Rand has to deal with the weakness in the Pattern. It's that which needs to be fixed, and this won't be done with a weave or the OP. Manifest effects in the pattern like the Bore will take care of themselves when the weakness in the pattern is removed (ie: when "order and belief make strength";).
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How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? newyorkersedai - 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM 1504 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? scooter - 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM 823 Views
.. *NM* Demortae - 25/06/2010 05:38:14 AM 452 Views
Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM 854 Views
Re: Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. scooter - 30/06/2010 03:18:32 AM 782 Views
Why can't the Pattern be the Prison? LoialT - 25/06/2010 05:52:31 AM 888 Views
Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania bobsledai - 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM 916 Views
I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM* Deadsy - 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM 419 Views
Thanks *NM* bobsledai - 25/06/2010 01:44:35 PM 403 Views
Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh Insomdeon - 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM 824 Views
Nice catch! bobsledai - 25/06/2010 04:28:08 PM 788 Views
The Aiel's insistance is not baseless. They know why they say it is evil. CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 06:01:08 PM 818 Views
You might be right, but the other idea is far more interesting. *NM* Deadsy - 25/06/2010 10:18:37 PM 394 Views
Slayer seems quite inhuman and he's been in TAR in the flesh a lot Rurouni_Kenshin - 26/06/2010 04:29:24 AM 651 Views
true, but he's also be transformed in some unknown way. Not sure he really counts as human darius_sedai - 26/06/2010 05:46:46 PM 860 Views
My idea Etzel - 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM 775 Views
Re: My idea Demortae - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM 718 Views
If the Bore is like a Gateway... LoialT - 25/06/2010 06:19:44 PM 824 Views
Pretty good thought about the conduit-comparison! Etzel - 26/06/2010 07:34:16 AM 716 Views
Re: My idea DomA - 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM 798 Views
The very name "Bore"... Etzel - 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM 752 Views
Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion Sidious - 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM 675 Views
Well, as said, I disagree. Etzel - 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM 731 Views
Well here's what I think Sidious - 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM 981 Views
Look... Etzel - 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM 702 Views
Re: Look... DomA - 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM 806 Views
That's wrong... Etzel - 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM 888 Views
You're ignoring basic facts Sidious - 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM 742 Views
Again... Etzel - 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM 758 Views
Re: Again... Deadsy - 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM 767 Views
No, the Bore was drilled through that specific thinness in the Pattern. Etzel - 26/06/2010 03:54:51 PM 782 Views
Yeah.... DomA - 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM 783 Views
It's absurd. Your idea is clearly wrong, but ok... *NM* Etzel - 26/06/2010 05:00:43 PM 689 Views
After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: bobsledai - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM 871 Views
Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: DomA - 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM 921 Views
Could the Bore have been drilled using balefire? Fanatic-Templar - 02/07/2010 12:07:33 AM 738 Views
it's the same principle as shielding a channeler darius_sedai - 26/06/2010 06:06:04 PM 788 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? Evil_Monkey - 25/06/2010 03:37:25 PM 631 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? Demortae - 25/06/2010 04:12:08 PM 739 Views
I tend to agree with you CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 05:53:53 PM 797 Views
Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum. *NM* CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 428 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? DomA - 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM 817 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? MissKoalaVB - 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM 746 Views
me too ! Deadsy - 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM 772 Views
Ah, thanks to both of you DomA - 26/06/2010 12:38:14 AM 899 Views
Re: Ah, thanks to both of you Deadsy - 26/06/2010 03:18:47 AM 788 Views
It sounds similar to one of the noisy environmental problem in RJ's time redhand - 27/06/2010 02:22:27 AM 744 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? Demortae - 25/06/2010 11:27:18 PM 705 Views
Callandor may be able to channel 'order' via ta'veren Matrimony Cauthon - 26/06/2010 12:48:18 AM 876 Views
additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols newyorkersedai - 26/06/2010 05:44:06 AM 744 Views
Re: additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols Demortae - 26/06/2010 05:23:16 PM 617 Views
You mix up DomA - 27/06/2010 06:31:27 PM 663 Views
good point newyorkersedai - 02/07/2010 05:52:49 PM 1015 Views
duct tape *NM* Deadsy - 26/06/2010 11:17:54 AM 381 Views
Re: duct tape Demortae - 26/06/2010 05:41:56 PM 674 Views
I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. CatherineSedai - 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM 811 Views
Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM 637 Views
Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else? The Angry Druid - 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM 688 Views
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