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Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin Send a noteboard - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM
In the WOT universe would spanking break completely so they had uncontrollable tears and were unsettled for a long time about it.

Adults i mean.




Semirhage and Cadsuane.

A public spanking, which is what we're really talking about, would probably unsettle most Aes Sedai and Windfinders, though not necessarily to the extent to which we saw with Semirhage. For one who demands such respect, and gets it, it would be very unsettling to be so publicly humiliated in such a childish way. But it's not about the spanking; it's about the public humiliation.


I just don't get the psychology, i don't think that way. "Public Humiliation" holds no fears for me, if it's even possible.

I guess it doesn't make sense as i don't think or hold the same emotion set. I don't get why being spanked in public would be humiliating, it's clearly a ploy, and for someone who i had thought was an actual proper psychopath to express such emotion seems weird.

But as i say i might not get it cause it's so different to my own way of looking at the situation.


When people were locked up in the stocks, the main punishment was that it was public. Every would see you bent over and know that you broke the law. The same with the Scarlet letter, it told every one that she had sinned against God.

Asian cultures still operate in this fashion, I see it at work in Korea everyday.

It would work on the Aiel too, although in a different fashion. You could break an Aiel by making them do enough useless work in public and drawing attention to it.
When the Wolf King carries the hammer, thus are the final days known. When the fox marries the raven, and the trumpets of battle are blown.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3014 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1484 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1396 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 637 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1178 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1066 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 529 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1203 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1168 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1114 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1070 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1151 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 987 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 966 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 575 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 958 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 975 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 922 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1091 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1149 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1021 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1045 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 500 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1039 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 931 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1045 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 966 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1004 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 924 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1071 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1055 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1196 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 574 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1148 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 623 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1008 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1020 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1073 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 999 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 948 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 976 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1009 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 999 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1038 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 948 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1051 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 888 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 940 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1031 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 944 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 926 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 897 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 994 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 786 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1069 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 568 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1044 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1140 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 934 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 537 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1060 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 654 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1094 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 949 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 961 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 978 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 856 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 919 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 948 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1058 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1076 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1001 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 980 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 991 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 985 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1060 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 911 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 960 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 905 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 942 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8259 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 939 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1021 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1249 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 880 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1044 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1045 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 984 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1244 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 953 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 828 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1069 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 935 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1145 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 996 Views
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