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well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM
Here it is:
, "Is he really so strong?" Rahvin asked quietly. "This Rand al'Thor. Could he have overwhelmed you, face-to-face?" Not that he himself could not, if it came to it, or Sammael, though Graendal would likely link with Lanfear if either of the men tried. For that matter, both women were probably filled to bursting with the Power right that moment, ready to strike at the slightest suspicion of either man. Or of each other. But this farmboy. An untrained shepherd! Untrained unless Asmodean was trying.

"He is Lews Therm Telamon reborn," Lanfear said just as softly, "and Lews Therin was as strong as any."


So, from this quote we could conclude that LTT can easily overwhelmed Lanfear face-to-face. Rahvin saying that even he or Sammael could achive that.

So all these people praising Lanfear - in your face! :D



Rand proves that he's stronger than Rahvin. Lanfear or Graendal would have smeared the floor with Rahvin. In the same scene he thinks the two women were about to start fighting each other and he certainly didn't think about overwhelming either of them in that moment.
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2204 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1277 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1348 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1413 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1435 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1335 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1285 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1386 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1216 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1279 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 1113 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1192 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1197 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 1071 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 1114 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1279 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1187 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1163 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1159 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 1151 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1201 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 1089 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1202 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 1100 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 1161 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1145 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 1093 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1153 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1147 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1151 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 1081 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 2055 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1246 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1147 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 1119 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 1090 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1283 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1269 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 1079 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 1100 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 1141 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 1145 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1278 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1293 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 1124 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1259 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1260 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1191 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1248 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1196 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 962 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 973 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 1049 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 939 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1229 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1213 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1155 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1129 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 644 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 1086 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 550 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 1004 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1178 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1129 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1180 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 1090 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1197 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 984 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 478 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 1061 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1131 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1373 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 994 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1231 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 1039 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 1071 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1223 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1190 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1277 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 1109 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 1126 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 1027 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 927 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1255 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 1122 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1125 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 1100 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 1114 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1161 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1250 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 1086 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1157 Views
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