It shows that certain people are more impressive at getting ahead than others. Lanfear being the only one of this group who hadn't been internationally famed prior to her association with the DO leads me to think that she's not particularly accomplished outside of being strong in the Power, which made her difficult to kill for anyone. We know the DO likes his minions to be selfish and if there is one thing Lanfear is, it's selfish!



I'm saying she was a nobody. She didn't get a name because the world at large didn't really know who she was, or care. IMO her personality would not allow for that so she did her typical drama queen thing and gave herself a Forsaken name and made a public spectacle... As Graendal would say "threw one of her tantrums"



I think Aran'gar, Moghedien, Graendal and Semirhage are all much more developed characters. I also think Sammael and Ishamael were more intense bad guys.

Lanfear seemed one-dimensional to me.



Actually what we have seen of Demandred has been rather unimpressive IMO too! I've said it before, I'm not holding out hope that he will do anything of note before he gets killed off... mind you I'll be happy if he does!

There was plenty of opportunity to show Lanfear as something more than a big wad of OP strength. He chose to show us practically nothing else about her though.



You wanting Lanfear to be the greatest minion of the DO of all time doesn't make it it so either.

I've never said she didn't have Talent in TAR, that's obvious. I'm saying it fits her character to make grandiose gestures, like giving herself a name and claiming an entire dimension as her domain and thinking with the CK she and Rand could rule the universe. She was all talk and no action in the books. The most interesting thing she did was skin a DF and then die.

Note also that her big plan was all about gaining more OP strength! Why didn't her plot involve her "world" in anyway?

RJ used her over and over to show strength in the OP and pretty much nothing else. Semirhage and Graendal are shown to be highly skilled experts throughout the books, Moghedien showed us more about TAR than any of the other FS (possible exception of Ishamael).



It is ... which makes her stupid. The others all serve themselves too, but they are at least smart enough to put on a good show of serving the DO.



Dude she was whipping Rand like a dog, and that was before she picked up the angreal! And that dock full of Aiel who couldn't channel? I like to refer to them as cannon fodder. Please.



Sure, if they had spent the time to set up the situation and struck at the right moment. Diminishing the acts of the others to make Lanfear look better is a poor argument.




The point isn't what they did there, it's that Lanfear, the self-professed QUEEN OF TAR, let others stroll around her realm without even making a show of ownership.



When did Graendal make the claim that Compulsion was her personal weave? But you can bet your ass she'd eliminate anyone who started mucking around in Arad Domon. Do you think Sammael would have been fine with Demandred roaming around Illian? Or Graendal would have let Mesaana set up shop in Bandar Eban? Look how fiercely Mesaana and Aran'gar fight over the WT groups!

The point is Lanfears claim to TAR is completely empty. Even if she was the most skilled there she had no hope of actually having ownership of TAR. The fact that she's not even the most skilled just highlights for me that she's all about the appearance of power, even if she doesn't have it. It fits with her character, but it makes her boring.



So Moridin is stupid too? Cyndane was certainly not acting meek or terrified until Moridin touched her Trap.

I'm sure the orders you summarize were pretty much as you said, but to tell them to stand there and do nothing is a good way to get two very powerful slaves killed. If Moridin thought they could subdue her he would have told them too do so, then summon SH when she was safely contained. At best Moghedien panicked and channeled when she should not have and the result was nearly being destroyed.

In any case it's an irrelevant point here.