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Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM
If we take "siswai'aman" as meaning "Spears of the Dragon", we have a conclusion that there is an Old Tongue word for "Dragon", which is peculiar because "Dragon" is a word without meaning for Third Age people, aside from the title of Lews Therin Telamon, who would have obviously borne that title in the Old Tongue. So really, shouldn't "Dragon" already be the Old Tongue word for Dragon? Whence comes this 'aman' then?

Funny too, because I seem to remember that in order to dodge the use of the word "Dragon", dragonflies are called lacewings in The Wheel of Time.


Maybe "aman" is a word that is closer to "fictional creature"? Nothing that says "aman" was a word used specifically to mean Dragon.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2199 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1492 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 1822 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1389 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1241 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1166 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1297 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1072 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1198 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1124 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1067 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1143 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 656 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1441 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1269 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1167 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 671 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1226 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1056 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1135 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1063 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1349 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1121 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1113 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1174 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1158 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1048 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 585 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 733 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 612 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 573 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 501 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 588 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 630 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1169 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1076 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1183 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1290 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1260 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1204 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1142 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1146 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3515 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1157 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1011 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1133 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1261 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1251 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1200 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1004 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 967 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1176 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1016 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1145 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1145 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1161 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1038 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1011 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1094 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1114 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1128 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1117 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1208 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1057 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 556 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1219 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1130 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1176 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1170 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1106 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 653 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1326 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1056 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1158 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1279 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1224 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1098 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1017 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1066 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1062 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 933 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1302 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 616 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1325 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 457 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 619 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 550 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 872 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7296 Views
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