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I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM
It doesn't make much sense that the other 5 "were truly more impressive" than Lanfear, if she is among the Top 6.

Personally, I definitely think that RJ also ranked those 6 at least a bit, namely that the first mentioned Ishy was the foremost of all Forsaken, followed by Demandred, and that the greatest female Forsaken was Lanfear.


The point I'm making is that Lanfear was unimpressive as a villain or character. I'm sure RJ meant for her to be seen as pretty much equal to all the top 6... I just think he wound up making her more of a joke.

Seriously everything she did screamed "Spoiled Brat" ... with the others there was just more depth.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2220 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1513 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 1848 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1412 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1270 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1185 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1319 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1099 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1221 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1147 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1083 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1162 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 665 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1477 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1288 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1193 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 681 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1245 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1084 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1156 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1082 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1379 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1141 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1137 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1203 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1179 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1076 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 595 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 743 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 621 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 583 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 512 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 596 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 641 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1197 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1092 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1199 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1314 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1286 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1229 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1169 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1168 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3541 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1188 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1032 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1161 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1282 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1277 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1224 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1025 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 993 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1200 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1039 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1174 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1167 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1181 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1062 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1032 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1115 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1143 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1138 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1141 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1236 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1081 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 564 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1248 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1152 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1200 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1191 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1132 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 663 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1354 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1083 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1185 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1311 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1250 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1119 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1041 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1086 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1081 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 957 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1329 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 623 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1359 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 466 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 628 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 561 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 896 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7327 Views
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